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“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”

Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.

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[–] wirebeads 203 points 4 days ago (3 children)

America needs more Luigis.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago

Many, many more.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Definitely more symbols like him. If he's found innocent, then we must ask if Luigi's identity and movement extend to the true killer. If he's found guilty, then we have a more complex conversation.

Either way, we need more.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m still convinced this poor kid is a patsy because NYPD was facing down a riot, or worse (for them), for the blatant classism in their investigation efforts.

Unfortunately much of the public has given Luigi credit/deemed him “guilty” out of a need for ideological symbolism and an outlet to express frustration.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm also of the opinion that the real killer might have very well gotten away and I seriously would not put it past the dirty cops to have a close lookalike take a fall and plant evidence on him.

Regardless, what the court of public opinion thinks of the guy who got arrested for the crime in question is, thankfully, still irrelevant in court proceedings. The prosecution still has to prove that it was him, and if they improperly collected the evidence they plan to use against him, it's going to be an uphill battle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't think a cleanly executed hit like what we saw on the video was some random dude like Mangione. The person who so calmly walked up, took aim, shot, and walked away was cold blooded.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And should they be on the chubbier side, they can be Mario.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone named Mario has a chance to do something really, really funny

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

He doesn't have to be called Mario. He just has to be a Mario. Get me?