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Fair enough. I think a lot of Liberals view socialism (like no shit real "own the means of production" socialism, rather than European capitalist-lite socialism of today) the same way as me: it sounds nice, it just doesn't seem to work very well in practice. But hey if we can get it to work, neat. In the mean time, let's get capitalism under control.
lol, capitalism doesn't work either?
There is no "in the meantime", capitalism is causing a general collapse of society and the entire biosphere of earth there is no tweaking the ship smashing into a iceberg to be beneficial for the ship, the ship already hit the iceberg.
Yes, that is the problem I am trying to point out, you don't seem to be able to listen to people who disagree with you on this topic without overlaying a childish 14 year old strawman argument over the top of what the adult is trying to point out to you.
Agreed.