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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless you're in California or any other area with a low water table. Then it's a huge issue.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Compare this person’s shower to the many farms growing almonds in the same state.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

You are right

At the same time

I can’t whataboutism limited resources

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Just abolished a bag this morning.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If I was Governor of California I'd push to make it so Almonds and Alfalfa can't be grown during the drought seasons.

I can live without a legume and I don't think I know a single person in my entire circle's circles who has eaten alfalfa.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The alfalfa isn't for humans, it's for high intensity dairy and cattle farming.

[–] jerkface 3 points 1 day ago

It sucks that this is practically occult information. People have no understanding of the damage they do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yup, it’s just beef, cheese and milk. Though if you can find them without e.coli their sprouts are good on sandwiches too.

[–] jerkface 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You must also consider the externalities, not just the financial cost that you bear personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd like to see it that way, but fresh water scarcity is a growing problem in many areas.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have to wonder how much impact people taking 30-minute showers would have compared to corporate [mis]use.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Corporate waste massively overshadows personal use.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.

You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn't make a dent to the misuse by corporations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I saw an ad from Esso that said you can reduce gas usage by emptying out your trunk!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

it's what would be described as "sub optimal use of a finite costly resource"

[–] Yoga -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If a billionaire enjoyed launching brand new cars off a cliff and considered it therapeutic would it not longer be a waste?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do cars evaporate and reaccumulate in the car supply eventually?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you've literally used all the water a city would use in a year.