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I switched to windscribe last month because the proton CEO starting spewing politcal BS, and I wanted port forwarding that wasn't locked behind a shitty GUI.

As far as I was concerned setup was super easy, the VPN speeds were great, and port forwarding worked really nicely. The whole price for a fixed server and port forward, + unlimited data was a bit much (at $95/year) but for the ease of use and speeds I was getting, I was happy to stick with them.

My setup is a always-on server with a 1gbps connection, where yes, I fucking seed my shit, all of it. I have about 30TB of linux ISOs and counting, and it's rare that my combined upload speed is less than 1MBps, ever.

Which lead me to getting banned from windscribe with no notice or warning in the middle of last week. This lead to me having to spend tracker points to avoid HnR, and i'm also unable to grab any new ISOs until I find a new VPN provider that won't ban me for actually using the service full time.

I did shoot them an email (after talking' with their AI bot first), and they were actually helpful enough. The offered to restore support, so long as I promised to not torrent with them again (which, I honestly did promise not to. I'm not sticking with a VPN service that can't handle me actually using it for what it's advertised for) and they did unban the account. Whole email chain took about three days to get resolved.

My sticking point is that they still have instructions on setting up torrents on their own website, and that they specifically allow for unlimited data (with the plan i paid for) so long as it's just one user. I did not break those rules. After clarifying that in the support email, they still said that I was using too much data (despite the unlimited data advertisement) and that torrenting was not allowed on their service.

TL:DR: Windscribe bans you if you use a lot of data, and support says torrents aren't allowed, despite their website advertising such. Proof in the attached images.

If y'all have any other suggestions for a VPN that allow port forwarding i'd really appreciate it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Thanks for the warning!

I’m not trying to convince you either way, but can you point to the ‘political BS’ Proton guy said that made you flip? I use Proton and also veer hard left wherever politics are concerned, and I personally think the whole thing is way overblown. I may have missed something though, happy to hear otherwise, because in my understanding all he did was soft-endorse someone who identifies as republican at the moment

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's the exact post that got the Proton CEO in trouble:

Maybe Gail Slater really is a great pick for Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division. Frankly, I have no idea. But I won't do business with any company that carries any water whatsoever for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He also went on Reddit and defended his statements by saying he wasn't familiar with American politics and he's sorry if he triggered people. So he's claiming to be unaware of thing because he doesn't engage in American politics, and at the exact same time, he's using right-wing talking points like misusing the term "triggered" to mean "upset left-leaning people". Something he could only have picked up if he's lurking in right-wing spaces.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

he's using right-wing talking points like misusing the term "triggered" to mean "upset left-leaning people".

At this point you can pretty much pick up that term from anywhere. We might think it's dumb, we might use it sarcastically, but it's entered our lexicon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While that's true, "I'm sorry that you got upset at what I did" is in no way actually an apology or an admission that they might have been wrong, so.....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

My comment is in no way related to the CEO dude

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

He called republicans "Republicans" and the Democrats "dems" in the comment.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm with you. I'm more pissed with Proton for disengaging via Mastodon than at the stupid CEO - but none if it is a good reason enough to opt for lesser services. Proton's doing good stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The strong other half of my reasoning was port forwarding being locked to GUI. I use a lot of scripts to keep my server restart process simple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, port forwarding on Proton is locked behind a GUI? That doesn’t seem right - I use proton with port forwarding for my torrent setup on my NAS and it connects to VPN just using environment variables from a docker compose file. No Proton software installed at all.

Also fully possible I’ve misread something; apologies if so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know about 'locked' so much as 'hard to get running with headless linux'. I looked into it two or three times and was stymied by the various ways it went wrong.

In comparison, windscribe had me choose a port on their website, and then I used that in my docker run command and it just worked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That’s understandable. I do recall when setting up my stuff that Proton’s documentation left a lot to be desired. Thankfully I found the Dr Frankenstein guides that walked me through it. I don’t do much script writing of my own though, so that may not be helpful for everyone.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone bases their opinion off that one out-of-context tweet, but if you actually take the time to evaluate the context you'll find it's extremely unlikely that Andy Yen (Proton CEO) is a "Trump supporter". At worst, he is a rationalist who wants to continue Proton's work with the US administration regardless of who is president, rather than having a tantrum and trying to virtue signal boycott and achieve nothing for 4+ years. Unfortunately a lot of people on the left would rather circlejerk in their online cope chambers like Lemmy and Bluesky rather than actually engage with reality.

[–] danielquinn 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was one of the people who based my opinion of Proton on that tweet and swore off them until someone else shared that link with me. It's excellent, thorough, and makes a convincing case that Yang is actually left-leaning. I can only assume that you're getting downvotes from people who haven't read it.

[–] skisnow 29 points 1 week ago

The downvotes are for the unnecessary holier-than-thou rant at the end attacking everyone using this very site.

[–] Evkob 22 points 1 week ago

I've seen that Medium article shared here before and find it very unconvincing. While I agree that framing the Proton CEO as an evil Nazi lapdog is a bit much, here's a comment I saw on Lemmy another time this was discussed that explains why the article is flawed better than I could.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have scores disabled so I wasn't aware that I was being mass downvoted, but I think it only further validates my point that Lemmy is full of left-wingers who have fled here so they can have an echo chamber safe space where their opinions and behaviours are never questioned. It's quite sad how easily triggered people are, they have a complete existential crisis if you even try to point them in the direction of reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

One thing to consider is that your interpretations of the polemics around "echo chamber" and "safe space" are rather provincial.

This sort of phrasing can in good faith be dismissed as politically defined regional demagoguery.