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the plight of young people has faded into the background, as the trade war with the U.S. takes centre stage in Canada’s federal election. Meanwhile, political parties have said more about protecting seniors’ retirements than helping young Canadians get a head start.

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New polling conducted by Nanos Research for The Globe and Mail and CTV News suggests that while the trade war is the top issue for Canadians 55 years and older, the cost of living is the priority for younger Canadians. Only one in 10 Canadians polled under the age of 35 said the trade was their main issue.

Canadians under the age of 35 are also more likely to trust Mr. Poilievre (38 per cent) – who has made the cost of living a central focus of his campaign – than Mr. Carney (26 per cent) to help young people.

The trade war has “taken the oxygen out of the room,” said Mike Moffatt, founding director of the Missing Middle Initiative, a project housed in the University of Ottawa’s Institute for the Environment with the stated goal of reviving Canada’s urban middle class.

“Other than housing, there has been a real absence of any policy to help struggling young people.”

From: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/federal-election/article-federal-election-2025-young-voters-housing-affordability-economy/

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[–] Thepotholeman 30 points 19 hours ago (26 children)

I would say that any young person thinking that Pierre is going to make your life better is so fucking full of cope. Pierre won't make your life better. More and more young people have part time jobs, no benefits, and are struggling to find a home and if they do it's an old outdated piece of shit going for half a million.

Atleast the liberals and NDP have been giving them dental coverage, pharmacare coverage and affordable, quality childcare. The liberals and NDP are also proposing plans that will help FIRST time home buyers buy new, Pierre is suggesting to "axe the tax" on ALL new homes without limit of how many you can buy. (Rich people will buy them all).

The liberals plan to do as we did after ww2 is the proven method to do this, and for young people looking for a home or a career, this is how we do it. This housing program will generate hundreds of thousands of trades positions that we desperately need and they pay decently. Using new technologies and new methods while also cutting development fees.

Idk, just baffles me that young 20 somethings are talking about how Pierre is their guy because..... They say life has been harder then ever? When those 20 somethings have only just began to enter the work force enmasse? Like I'm sorry but these kids were in elementary school when Trudeau got elected and every day since their parents have been paying for less and less of their stuff. They are still under their parents insurance if they're in college or university and it's just wild to me that they would actually think this.

Maybe it's them scrolling social media endlessly and seeing random fucking people there repeating "lost liberal decade" or "things have never been worse" (when they have in fact been much much worse).

[–] wampus 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Fairly sure the younger cohort is deciding largely based on the past performance of the existing government. Justin's Liberals have been in power since 2015 -- for many 18-28 year olds, the Liberal government is the only party they've known / seen. And in that time, have things improved on the housing front?

Or did the government start off campaigning on it as an issue, but then when the issue spiked due to other Liberal policies (mass influx of immigrants post COVID), did they attempt to claim it wasn't a federal government responsibility? And they then flip flopped on that again, and re-assigned the guy they had in charge of the mass, chaotic influx of immigrants to be in charge of figuring out housing (Miller). A decade of promising advances on that file, and a decade of it getting exponentially worse. And it is exponentially worse, you just have to google charts on housing prices / historical trends to see it, there've been tons of articles in the news over the years screaming about it to the ears of deaf politicians. The party swapping leaders last second isn't going to erase that history, one that was supported by the party at large.

For example, the CMHC has a chart of averages/medians for the vancouver region here: https://www03.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/hmip-pimh/en/TableMapChart/Table?TableId=1.10.1&GeographyId=2410&GeographyTypeId=3&DisplayAs=Table&GeograghyName=Vancouver . From 1990 to 2000, the median went from 280k to 360k -- about 30% over 10 years, roughly 3% per year. Even back then it was considered a good move to buy/invest in housing due to the appreciation in value beating inflation targets. From 2015 to 2022 (the end of the tables data), it went from 1.09m to 2.06m -- about 89% in 8 years, roughly 11% per year. And that includes years where the COVID immigration disruption "briefly" flattened the increase -- it was up to 2m in 2018, dropped to 1.6m in 2020, and then shot back up once the flood gates were re-opened. Wages, to the surprise of absolutely no one, can't keep up with that sort of increase: it's completely unhinged. From a younger person's perspective, that's what the Liberals did.

That cohort is also young enough that things like Childcare will only apply to a small % of the group. Likewise, likely, for dental coverage -- many young people in Uni will get extended coverage from any parental work-coverage, and young people who work will have that potential coverage directly. Dental costs are also less 'present' and ubiquitous than housing costs -- you gotta pay rent monthly, but you don't need an annual root canal. Government Dental is a perk more for retired seniors, disabled/long-term unemployed people and middle-aged people who don't have coverage through work -- even the CBC ran stories focusing on the senior demographic for that one (the person highlighted, iirc, was a ~75 year old who'd worked in America most of her life, who is currently still working to pay for her dentures). Hell, even when I was in uni, at least one of my friends, who had coverage, didn't bother going to the dentist for years cause she just wasn't fussed. Even as a middle aged person, I'm personally not that fussed with anything the liberals / ndp promise the senior cohort -- many millenials are jaded enough at this point, that promises for boomers are viewed as things that will disappear by the time we get old enough to qualify, if we get old enough to qualify given how healthcare/GP access has also deteriorated: I fully expect to die younger than my parents. I can understand why an even younger generation wouldn't be in favour of putting in social supports for boomers -- at this point it isn't the boomers who are having to pay the taxes, its the boomers voting explicitly to give themselves perks at the expense of younger generations.

I think Pierre / the cons are a terrible choice, personally. But I can fully understand why the younger folks would be swayed by the idea of change, even if its just smashing things apart like we're seeing in the States. The last decade has been bleak, and there's no tangible reason to think that the promises of the party in charge during that decade are worth anything going forward.

[–] Thepotholeman 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah but you're saying that as if these people don't have access to the entirety of human history in the palms on their hands, and on their tvs. They are fucking consumed with non important bullshit instead of realizing that we have been downt he road before, and the solution to it is not what Pierre and the cons are suggesting.

[–] wampus 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They have direct access/experience with Liberals making promises for election campaigns, and then doing whatever they want once in power. They have direct experience with a Liberal government causing housing prices to skyrocket at rates previously unseen -- the Liberals have literally presided over a period of Canada's history that utterly destroyed the dreams of many younger folks. They also have access to historical information highlighting how much easier it was for older generations, older generations who have voted consistently to 'pull the ladder up' from the next generation. And, most importantly I think, most people aren't fussed with researching years and years of history before voting.

And the disparity on fronts like housing has grown to a point where lots of younger people are basically saying "We'd rather watch it all burn, so you old people feel the same hopelessness as us". And again, I can't fault them for it.

It's not so much about "pro pierre", as it is "pro change". Carney hopefully will do things 'differently', but doing stuff like axing carbon taxes and removing environmental reviews from projects, isn't exactly a "hopeful future" for younger people who are watching things like Jasper and Lytton burn to the ground due to climate change. Carney is essentially an 'older' generation of Conservative, who was parachuted into the Liberal leadership because they feel like the Cons move right gives them an opportunity to move 'right' to garner more of the disenfranchised conservative voters, while the fear of a hard-right wing movement will keep their left-leaning supporters in line. It's a gamble that'll likely pay off, but it's not one that carries a whole lot of 'hope' given the circumstances. There's a reason more 'active' forms of left wing principles, like what you see AOC and Bernie touring on, have more appeal to the younger demo.

[–] Thepotholeman 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm sorry, the liberals were responsible for trump attacking us with tarrifs on crucial industries like lumber, steel and aluminum in his first term? They were responsible for covid19? And the latest rounds of attacks on our sovereignty?

The liberals are at fault for the CONSERVATIVE provinces declining to work with them and then continued to ignore housing? It was their fault the provinces abused foreign students by letting them into our schools and charging them obscene fees so they didn't have to use taxpayers dollars so they looked more fiscally responsible? They were the reason the provinces like Alberta and Ontario got rid of their own carbon pricing system, making them have to pay the federal carbon tax? And then blaming the federal government for it? It was their fault that the conservative provinces kept trying to privatize our healthcare?

This is the goddamn fucking problem. Canadians by and large DONT KNOW WHO TO BLAME and for WHAT. "TeN YeArs oF lIbErAL ruLe" yeah. And during that time we have gotte: $10/day childcare, school foods programs, dental care for the most vulnerable and working class, pharmacare, legalized marijuana (which brings in bank btw), the first home savings account, federal student loans are interest free, the housing accelerator program, 30yr mortgage with 5% down for first time homebuyers, $10000 tax credit for first time homebuyers, EV rebates, the housing retrofit program to help make homes more energy efficient. And much more.

But nah people will still whine and bitch about how it's all the liberals fault after doom scrolling for ten fucking years and not paying attention only to absolutely fuck our progress up because why? They saw a fucking Instagram reel or a podcast talking about it?

YOUR PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT is responsible for: EDUCATION, HOUSING, HEALTHCARE, INFRASTRUCTURE, EMPLOYMENT, AND RESOURCE EXTRACTION.

So it's high time everybody wakes the fuck up and starts taking this shit seriously because a lot of you don't even know where to fucking start because you just think "PM MEANS HE FIX ALL"

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