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Sp you fell for it then? Capitalists doing capitalist things (marketing) and just because they all identified as women you can’t be critical of the obvious nonsense at play here? Grow up.
They did not reach space.
They did not pilot.
They went on a rollercoaster ride.
Remember how there have been actual all women-identifying NASA crews? That’s REAL progress in equality. Or were you not born yet?
Exactly. Jeff Bezos financially supported and cosied up to the Trump administration, which has been erasing the names of accomplished women (and other minority groups) in their crusade against DEI. Katy Perry and the 5 others willingly participated in this publicity/propaganda stunt for Jeff Bezos.
They are collaborators of the Trump regime, which is very much anti-women.
They did reach space, as defined by a relatively arbitrary international agreement.
But yeah, passengers are not astronauts any more than I'm a pilot for buying a ticket on Air Asia to KLIA2.
Fair point! :)
The truth is, the definition has to be arbitrary. There's no distinct point at which there suddenly goes from being atmosphere and therefore Earth to being no atmosphere and therefore space. The Kármán line is chosen because it is a nice round number roughly where aerodynamics stop being useful in planning spaceflight missions.
To play some devil's avocado here, not every astronaut is a pilot. Some are just like, geologists.
The simplest difference I can think of is that astronauts go to space on a mission and actually work and do a job.
Yeah. That’s the whole point. Fair enough. The people on this commercial flight were there as a marketing tool not as a science tool.
At some point “astronaut” has to mean “did science in space” and not “bought a sightseeing ticket so a corporation could profit.”
I’m not a carnie because I spent 5 ride tickets on the coaster. Even if I buckled my own seatbelt.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mercury#Astronauts
What does that link show? Women have been in space since 1963.
It effectively refutes the "They did not reach space" comment, and also indicates how no one made fun of Alan Shepherd for "not having piloted" or "went on a rollercoaster ride".
Did you read it?
Of course. The point is that this flight was nothing new or special. Especially with the makeup of the cohort of folks on it.
Stop pretending it’s anything more than what it is: marketing.
I think you completely misunderstand my original post. The trip is a non-story. The KP hate is still misogynistic.
Hate of her (and king, etc) comes from her pushing this idea that she is special. That’s. The. Point.
They are 100000% not special. Just rich.
Nah, it's just misogyny. Compare with the reactions to when Shatner went to space (no one claiming it wasn't space then) and also had a huge emotional reaction coming back to earth.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/13/william-shatner-jeff-bezos-rocket-blue-origin
My reaction was just the same. It’s all rich people nonsense.