Europe
News and information from Europe 🇪🇺
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in [email protected]. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
- Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.
(This list may get expanded as necessary.)
Posts that link to the following sources will be removed
- on any topic: RT, news-pravda:com, GB News, Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, OAN, sociable:co, citjourno:com, brusselssignal:eu, europesays:com, geo-trends:eu, any AI slop sites (when in doubt please look for a credible imprint/about page), change:org (for privacy reasons)
- on Middle-East topics: Al Jazeera
- on Hungary: Euronews
Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media. Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com
(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)
Ban lengths, etc.
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to any of the mods: @[email protected], @[email protected], or @[email protected].
view the rest of the comments
As an American I don't approve of empires: I don't want Denmark or France to have colonies in the Americas. That doesn't mean I want Greenland for the US though, let them be a free country of their own (or they could join Canada).
I'm consistent here: I do not approve of having Hawaii as a US state/territory. The other worldwide territories we have: have tiny populations (Guam at 168k) and military bases are an unfortunate necessity. However if anything has or grows to a significant population (with Guam already borderline) they should be left free. Puerto Rico is at least in the Americas: they can go free if they want, or join as a state - they should not be a territory.
So you are in favour of returning the entirety of the Americas to the natives, right?
Denmark has claimed Greenland for longer than the current batch of Inuit live there. Norse settled there some 500 years before Columbus, in completely uninhabited lands. Those settlements failed, current batch of Inuit moved in, history happened. At some point Danes ceased to be assholes thus Denmark fully recognises the Inuit's rights to self-determination, to declare independence if and when they so desire. No "unfortunate necessity" excuse why they can't do it which you seem to believe is justifiable. There's also no deciding for the Inuit "you must become independent, now", like you're doing.
Go, look in the mirror, have a long, deep, thought about who has a colonial mindset, here, and who doesn't. Who is keen on deciding things for another people, and who isn't.
I'm not sure what you think I'll see in the mirror: I have a consistent philosophy that does not align with my government.
Just because Denmark has claimed Greenland for a long time does not make it right.
Convenient of you to not address self-determination in your answer. And, no, your position is not consistent or there wouldn't be "unfortunate necessities". A weasel clause if there ever was one.
Yeah i oppose empire but support self determination. If the Greenland inuit want to be Danish that's between them and Denmark
They definitely don't want to be Danish, as in ethnically, but they want their Scandinavian welfare state and not be worse off independent than as they are as part of the Kingdom. It's doubly complicated as they can't readily join the EU without being part of Denmark, too small population-wise, the Faroese are in pretty much the same situation.
I will never go back to reddit, but oh, how I miss r/shitamericanssay ;-)
Doesnt Guam have a bigger population that Greenland?
I don't mind terretories being part of bigger countries as long as those countries have a real choice to leave as they want. "You can leave, but then we will put sanctions on you" does not count
What is the difference between joining Canada or remaining an autonomous territory of Denmark? Greenland also has the option of leaving Denmark, and this not a topic without controversy and debate within Greenland, so while I appreciated you not wanting them to be forced under US hegemony, I find the rest of your comment a little arbitrary.
And what a funny "option" it is. Even the most boneheaded separatists there have smelled the true smell in the winds from the west by now, and of course even they like a few more hugs and kisses with Denmark so much better.