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[–] tempest 98 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Canada has only put it off for a few years. The liberals have been in power for a long time and people were already itching for a change.

It isn't like the conservatives did poorly They turned out tones of votes, the only reason they are not in power is because the left United to keep them out, essentially decimating the other left wing parties.

The next election we have will very likely go to the conservatives when the left splits again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need Jack Layton back…. Anyone know a good Cleric with access to Level 5 spells?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I absolutely love this comment. Thank you for sharing that.

[–] cygnus 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There's a non-zero chance the CPC splits too. There's major infighting, with even Jason Kenney somehow being the voice of reason versus the MAGA wing of the party. https://xcancel.com/jkenney/status/1918107158035451945

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ford goes national, party factions hard, reverse Reform Party lol, reconciles under Ford, Canada gets its Trump years, not months, after the US swings right as is tradition.

Sigh. I hate this. We are so fucked and climate and H5N1 aren’t on fucking pause.

[–] cygnus 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

reconciles under Ford

Ford is one of the personae most non grata among the Maple MAGA crowd, so that's (thankfully) a hard no. A more likely scenario I think is a split back into Reform and PC, with PCs peeling off a lot of Bloc support in QC as well as CPC support in ON and Atlantic and becoming viable that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why don’t they like him? He seems repugnant enough to me that he should be a shoe in for MAGA types.

[–] cygnus 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He isn't socially conservative, and he gets along well with Liberals (Chrystia Freeland is a close friend, for example)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s kinda how Trump was too though.

[–] cygnus 3 points 1 day ago

That's a very good point. Would Dougie go far-right if it suits him? Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Itching for a change for the better. Not worse. Important detail that needs to be described in the campaign. Peepeepoopoo is also not a good leader especially when the Trudeau effect was the only thing that changed the outcome.

[–] tempest 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter what they want.

The only real option for right wing voters is the conservatives so they will keep voting blue.

The only real option for liberal voters not happy with the current state of things is the NDP.

So the NDP pulls votes from the liberals and the conservatives will be in power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You assume the ndp dissappear because they vote ndp instead of libs? That’s not how Canadian politics works. The ndp simply become a dance partner to the libs to vote against the blue whenever they introduce something insane in HOC. They become a majority together to keep the cons in check. For ndp voters they feel safe in either party on the bipartisan angle. This election was just special once trump was the topic.

This is why the 172 is a magic number because it means a majority doesnt get checked. All other parties cannot add up to that number to fight in HOC.

A number that so long as ndp and bloc exist along side the libs: they are a threat to the blue.

This election the blue were trying to steal from the libs and ndp and bloc.they managed to steal about 20 seats.

Bloc sacrificed a lot in this election. Ndp too. They lost their party status.

[–] tempest 1 points 9 hours ago

If the house of commons was comprised of the popular vote of the country maybe but it isn't. The vote splits in each riding and on the riding level they lose and it becomes a conservative seat. In deeply liberal ridings like downtown Toronto the NDP and liberals might trade places but anywhere where the vote is close they both lose.

That is why FPTP trends towards two parties. That is why there isn't the Canadian alliance and PC parties anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

And their shittiest party is bending over backward to keep PP relevant.