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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43498121

There were many disheartening moments during the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign for progressives who support Palestinian rights. Yet few were quite as deflating as that moment when the ostensibly progressive, leading member of The Squad, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stood at the podium at the Democratic National Convention and told the audience that then-Vice President Kamala Harris was “working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and bring the hostages home.”

We knew she was lying. AOC herself knew she was lying. But it was just the message that the crowd—who were more than eager to show their support for the Democrats despite the party’s utter refusal to allow even the most conciliatory and moderate Palestinian voice to be heard—wanted to hear, and they ate it up.

The utterly shameless nature of the lie has now been confirmed by no less than nine officials from Joe Biden’s administration and reported on by Israel’s own Channel 13 news program, Hamakor, which, aptly, translates as “The Source.”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are more downvotes than up so far, and I can't tell of that's because this is misleading, or because people don't like it- full disclosure I don't know a ton about this situation

Is there context this post is missing, or info that would help people better understand the situation accurately?

Thanks :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mondoweiss is a sensationalized rag (and that's me being charitable). The fact that this was posted by the top mod of this community has ruined the entire community's credibility in my eyes.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mondoweiss/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hate group designation by third-party pro-Israel advocates

This means nothing. "Palestinians deserve to live in peace" is designated as "hate speech".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, let's flip that around then. Does this make it any better?

Overall, we rate Mondoweiss as Left Biased and Questionable due to the blending of opinion with news, the promotion of pro-zionist and anti-Palestinian propaganda, occasional reliance on poor sources, and hate group designation by third-party pro-Palestinian advocates.

Trick question: it does not. Reputable outlets do not put their thumb on the scale in either direction. Just because you agree with their bias does not make them credible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nobody complains when I post one of thousands of fact checks on shit Donald trump says, but the Dems are real touchy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's not what you're posting but where you're posting it from and their track record. Post it from a less biased, less sensationalized, more reputable source and I would guess those complaints will largely go away.

Nobody complains when I post one of thousands of fact checks

Those have all been from credible sources.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I notice you aren't disputing the facts here, just the source.

This article touches on many of the same talking points if it's more to your liking in terms of "credibility" rating. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/aoc-dnc-speech-gaza/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Giving a garbo source the benefit of the doubt on an article-by-article basis just muddies the waters and gives an air of undeserved legitimacy to other things they publish.

Credibility and trust are built over time; throwing out a "look, THIS article is okay" every so often does not make them a credible source.

If the facts are solid, then there should be at least one other reputable source reporting on them. If only a sensationalist rag is covering it, maybe ask why that is.

I notice you aren't disputing the facts here, just the source.

This is the same argument I've seen used by people trying to legitimize Fox News and RT, BTW.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mondoweiss is highly credible. You just don’t like the fact that they have been critical of the Israeli occupation and apartheid even before the genocide in Gaza.

Edit: mediabiasfactcheck is awfully wrong it is a shame people trust it. It clearly has pro-Zionist and anti-Palestinian bias. Zionism is a violent and racist ideology and the Palestinians have a right to self defense even through armed struggle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it covers the same talking points, why not post it instead of destroying this community's credibility with this rag?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

What don’t you like about Mondoweiss?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Because Gaza is only bad when Trump does it. .world is suddenly against the genocide when Trump does it.

When Biden sends more bombs than any president before him, it's actually working really hard on a ceasefire. Please ignore how more money and more weapons are sent each time. Please ignore the pleas for help from victims, they're a psyop or a Russian bot.

And if you ask "Why are we aiding in mass murder?" You're called a single issue voter and they never ended your support in the first place.