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[–] [email protected] 52 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

i HATE microsoft. am a software developer. but literally corporations make you use their shit. how could you even avoid it? having no job or something?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There are many software solutions but people just pretend they don't exist. Herd mentality. If you water a plant it grows.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

when YOUR JOB says, "here's Outlook, fucking use it" what else can you do. did you even read what i wrote?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Have you never worked in an office before? IT doesn't just let you install whatever you want on work machines.

We know alternatives exist... They're not always available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Skill issue. Find a better job, duh.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Or if you use your own machine, you still have to collaborate in ways that require Office for one reason or another.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

None of my desk jobs have ever allowed a personal computer because of the risk of data leaking.

Was cautioned about an employee at our competitor who used a personal device, it was stolen and it had client data on it including some of their IP, and when that client took legal action, because the employee acted out of company policy they were on the hook for it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

-> technical device - for productive employees that's an actual option, but you may have to prove to the organization that they benefit from enabling your full potential

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe for the positions you may have been in; had I used Linux at any of those other jobs there would constantly be document compatibility issues between LibreOffice and Word, and in an IT position I wouldn't be able to replicate issues a user is facing, unable to read Windows memory dumps or event logs on my own machine, the RMM doesn't have a client for a tech to use on Linux, and that's just scratching the surface.

The benefits of Linux for me (no ads, no telemetry, familiarity of the terminal and config files, open source, privacy, sticking it to big tech, etc.) just don't translate into things that would make me more productive at work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

document compatibility issues

Those can be avoided for all documents and presentations that are not written by multiple people at the same time. In practice, such use cases exist, though - but in order to enable my own full productivity I have managed to cut those ties.

in an IT position I wouldn’t be able to replicate issues a user is facing

Having to support users of Nadella-Assholesoft (NA) is a whole different issue. No one can reasonably expect to have any job relief because they hate NA when they sign up for an IT support position for NA.

The benefits of Linux for me (no ads, no telemetry, familiarity of the terminal and config files, open source, privacy, sticking it to big tech, etc.) just don’t translate into things that would make me more productive at work.

You are obviously prioritizing what's important to you. That's pretty normal. However, anyone who wants to and can switch, your switch, fighting the uphill battle to get Linux more widespread. Especially now that the divided states of southern northern america have gone off the deep end and turned full-scale fascism. Any silicon valley oligarch product you manage to cut from your life will protect the lives of innocents in america and elsewhere in the world (palestine, for one).

Convenience is no longer a good option when it comes with fascism and support of genocidal regimes.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

only in jobs were you'd be looking for a way out. The only things you can't do in LibreOffice is be 100% layout identical with the same document opened in Nadella-asshole-soft office (but still you get reasonably close), use macros (and people who create documents with non-VBA macros deserve to be slapped anyways) or use VBA (that's the real downside, especially in spreadsheet calculations). LibreOffice Basic isn't really practical to use, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Uhh, no. There are collaborative tools in Office that are used by the sorts of people who don't know what LibreOffice is. There's also certain internal policies that tend to classify information in ways that work with Office.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are collaborative tools in Office that are used by the sorts of people who don’t know what LibreOffice is.

I know. But I do not see how those would keep the knowledgeable people from working in LibreOffice and saving their documents in OOXML.

There’s also certain internal policies that tend to classify information in ways that work with Office.

If an organization relies on "classifying information in ways that work with Office", the IT security probably has no idea what they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

But I do not see how those would keep the knowledgeable people from working in LibreOffice and saving their documents in OOXML

Because they're not strictly "your" documents. You have to share them with co-workers.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 12 hours ago

well 'scuse you, but you said you were a software developer. any SW dev worth their money can at the very least get a self-administrated technical device not to be hooked up to the intranet, because corporate IT sucks donkeyballs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

i've been using open office for decades. do you really think i hate microsoft but just needed to hear about open office? I'm talking about at work, like this fucking meme is referencing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 12 hours ago

you literally asked "how" people could avoid nadella-asshole-microshit software