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Hard disagree. Adobe the company is awful but Photoshop, illustrator and Lightroom are useful. It is enraging the hoops you gotta jump through to sort-of use them on Linux.
Its enraging the hoops you have to jump through to use them anywhere. Let it die already.
Let it die? Windows is 10x more likely to die in the next decade and I'm not counting on that ever happening
Yeah, probably. Adobe just sucks horribly. It needs to go away. There subscription practices are nearly criminal. And for what? It isn't that great.
Pirate that shit. Never ever give them a penny, I know I won't after they started the subscription model, destroying my upgrade path. What is your frame of reference? I was trained in design and learned to use Photoshop, illustrator, InDesign, premiere, and after effects. These do not suck. They are industry standard for a reason.
The business practices, bloat, and lack of cross platform support are shit but their functionality is actually pretty stellar. Alternatives exist but are kind of lacking in some ways. I don't get it when people think the tools virtually every professional uses are dog shit...
I have a background in graphics arts and design. But I don't do that anymore, yet i am very familiar with the products.
I am saying the corporate practices suck, the products are OK, but it isn't worth it. I won't pirate it because that justifys them existing. I simply won't use them.
And if they go away, other things will take their place.
They aren't going away anytime soon. "It isn't worth it" okay well if I can run them I will and it's very much worth it if I can. Which I have been in a vm. Just sucks getting a performance hit.
There shouldn't be a performance hit that you can notice in a VM.
But keeping them is like complaining about shooting yourself in the foot. Its still supporting them.
Just quit.
Pirating their software is not supporting them, not in the least; it's opposite of it if anything. I've tried being nice to you. So now that you've rejected that, can you fuck off please?
Companies secretly love their software being pirated, in a marketing sense. It means they're the most popular option. Microsoft's attempts to stop Windows piracy were gestures to keep legal protections. So are adobe's. It means they still get to keep the monopoly over the industry, even if the people pirating it don't immediately give them money. It forces corporate employers to shell out big budgets for subscriptions. It means freelancers have to acquire licenses if they want to work with the big contractors. Every person who pirates their software to learn it, is another fish feeding their stranglehold on the graphics industry. It means they get to dictate what is the standard and force billion dollar companies to conform to them and not the other way around. It's a blight. Piracy keeps the status quo.
What you're saying would apply if I hadn't already learned it 20 years ago. This idea implies that for me not to "support" them by giving them no money, I have to learn entirely new, likely less capable software, in some cases. I mean, I wish I had time for that, but absolutely nope.
Where did that come from? It was just a conversation, that was out of nowhere. I never was not nice.
Insisting other people's opinions are invalid isn't the neutral chatter you seem to think it is