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A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.

I just don't see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The worst part is that this problem has already been solved by using LIDAR. Vegas had fully self-driving cars that I saw perform flawlessly, because they were manufactured by a company that doesn’t skimp on tech and rip people off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't really called it a solved problem when waymo with lidar is crashing into physical objects

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/waymo-recalls-1200-robotaxis-after-cars-crash-into-chains-gates-and-utility-poles/ar-AA1EMVTF

NHTSA stated that the crashes “involved collisions with clearly visible objects that a competent driver would be expected to avoid.” The agency is continuing its investigation.

It'd probably be better to say that Lidar is the path to solving these problems, or a tool that can help solve it. But not solved.

Just because you see a car working perfectly, doesn't mean it always is working perfectly.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lidar doesn’t completely solve the issue lol. Lidar can’t see line markings, speed signs, pedestrian crossings, etc. Cars equipped with lidar crash into things too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I oversold it in my original comment, but it still performs better than using regular cameras like Tesla did. It performs better in weather and other scenarios than standard cameras. Elon is dumb though and doesn’t think LiDAR is needed for self-driving.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Let me guess……you watched mark rober’s video? Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I’ve watched a few random ones over the years. No idea who he is.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Are those the ones that you can completely immobilize with a traffic cone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

A human also (hopefully anyway) wouldn't drive if you put a cone over their head.

Like yeah, if you purposely block the car's vision, it should refuse to drive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

You say that like it's a bad thing lol if it kept going, that cone would fly off and hit somebody.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The same is true when you put a cone in front of a human driver’s vision. I don’t understand why “haha I blocked the vision of a driver and they stopped driving” is a gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably Zoox, but conceptually similar, LiDAR backed.

You can immobilize them by setting anything large on them. Your purse, a traffic cone, a person :)

Probably makes sense to be a little cautious with the gas pedal when there is an anything on top the vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

That and if you just put your toddler on the roof of the car or something or trunk for a quick second to grab something from your pocket.....VROooOMMM baby gone.