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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem with this sentiment is that you misrepresent the points of contention. This is not a disagreement over people’s preferred pizza toppings, where parties can safely “agree to disagree.” We are talking about positions that pose a clear, real, immediate existential threat to entire groups of people, simply because they exist. Do you really think this hasn't been discussed? Do you genuinely think this hasn’t been talked about, debated, argued, demonstrated, illustrated, and experienced ad infinitum for literal decades?

The reason you are being downvoted (and justly so) is that your argument in this case is literally a form of victim-blaming. People being actively harmed, abused, and oppressed are under no obligated whatsoever to try and meet their aggressors in the middle or to concede any part of their existence to them. This disease was festering long before the internet existed. “Echo chambers” have nothing to do with it. It a matter of good versus evil, right versus wrong, liberty versus death. Neither the oppressed mor their defenders will lie down and die because you are inconvenienced by conflict they never wanted.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Divide and conquer strategies work.

I am saying that we need to unite the working class where we agree, not just focus on where we disagree.

The duopoly will always work against the working class while handing out crumbs so as to win some small points.

We must build a rainbow coalition (Black Panther Party) instead of continuing the political tribalism of blue versus red teams (Bloods versus Crips).

That is why I mentioned:

It is difficult to have discussions with people that do not share our views or way of thinking.

It takes a lot of time and effort IRL and on forums.

It takes time and effort to build up a rainbow coalition, but it is possible.

Chris Smalls was able to do it with the Amazon Labor Union (ALU) in Staten Island; instead of talking to people where they disagree, they come together on things that they agree with.