I'm getting really sick of leftist social media like Bluesky just being about being another echo chamber and completely unaware of it because "we're the good politics!"
The sentiment that men are only men if they're associated with the right has been out in full swing for a few years now and it's just tiring.
Harris didn't win because men will never accept a woman president. Except all the men who voted for her, they don't count, the left gets told it has a problem with men all the time and deflects by saying that it's men who have the problem by going to the right and supporting them.
Never, not once, are men acknowledged for supporting leftist beliefs or voting for the party, and it's even looked down upon when they ask for acknowledgement, like it's entitlement while men on the right live rent free in the heads of the leftist base.
Men get shit on for being asked to be recognized as men on the left but that identity is freely given to men on the right, they don't have to ask to be acknowledged or recognized because they're doing what is expected by being the bad guys.
Straight men in particular, you'll be recognized as a man on the left if you're gay because it assures everyone who isn't a man you don't want anything from them.
Like for fuck's sake the right is abhorrent and shames women and LBGTQ people for their existence I don't know how the left got to this point of also saying "you're not really a man unless you hate women" and not realizing they're perpetuating the same bullshit.
Like I don't hate women for being women, but I fucking hate when people assert "all men just hate women" because it's dumb shit gender essentialism that is just dismissing anything a guy might say in response that isn't telling the speaker to go fuck themselves.
Yeah of course the right is doing better with men, they aren't shaming them for existing and only acknowledging them as being pieces of shit.
It's frustrating because there's days where I want to say fuck it and go join the other side and I think the left actually wants that more than the right does because they validate men who do it and men who stick with the left? "Yeah whatever do you want a medal?"
How about to be recognized as the gender I identify as and a human being? Apparently too much to ask when it's a man.
I mean I just got told on Bluesky that it's ok to say "men.... Negative think" And it's everyone else's responsibility to know you really just mean specific men and I'm telling on myself as one of those men for taking any issue with the practice.
Hell the post I was originally replying to had screenshots of people being shitty to men and the response to them was that random posts aren't proof when like yes that's how proof works, but the goalpost gets moved to "well it's not a real problem" and downplayed instead of anyone just defusing the situation by saying "yeah that sucks, people shouldn't be shitty to men just like they shouldn't be shitty to women".
I'm not keeping a collection of posts nor do I think it's this sweeping universal thing, I run into posts being shitty and ignore them and move on until I make a vent post about it but I'm not tracking them as they happen, which apparently you need to because that's the other counter, that anecdotes aren't proof, which agreed they aren't, but it's telling IMO that the reaction to guys saying they feel this way is usually a lot more charged and accusatory than a guy saying he doesn't like the current state of things.
Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying in this or your other comment (to be absolutely clear, I'm saying I mostly agree with you). While I don't think the problems are necessarily systemic, I do agree there's a lot of folks who like to beat up on dudes for existing as a dude.
I think this is where I got the wrong impression. I assumed you were trying to hit at a solution (beyond "everyone should be more cognizant of how they talk to people), but it this is just you venting frustrations, then I hope it helped and I hope you don't get any backlash from letting out your frustrations. Lol, I don't know that I know if a better place for it, but I don't think this is your best venue.
One last thing though: what do you mean by this? The way its framed, it sounds like you mean it as a literal quote....but I'm not sure what context that could exist in to make that make sense?
Oops I meant "men... Negative thing" as in a statement starting with men followed by a negative statement (e.g. men are such pigs!)
And I am venting frustrations but also saying it's a vent post because of the powerlessness to enact a solution outside of my immediate reach, which is the real solution is do what is can to be better to people I interact with and it will spread but it's one thing irl and one thing with social media where it's a beast trying to defeat better communication with "engagement", it's fighting an uphill battle. Can't dismantle the master's house with the master's tools as they say.