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Is that bad? (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't they have like 9 graphics libraries and frameworks accross 4 languages already?

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It's actually at least 13.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I remember people arguing that Linux having two main toolkits were holding it back back in 2000-2010 but then Microsoft invents a few billion UIs just for itself. Even the one big megacorp can't be bothered to keep things consistent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They need to scrap all this shit and take a massive step back and start over. Absolute bollocks.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And that's one of their best UI. You understand everything with a single glance, no need to press shift to get more things, there are no more things, that's all there is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's an interesting piece of tech ephemera, but devils advocate here, I'm not sure that I agree with the implication that this is a bad thing. The UI works. It gives you all the options you need with no major downsides or pain points. In this case, I think there's something to be said for: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed, I just find these instances of unintended longevity really fascinating :) The other day I was reading an article about how some infrastructure in Western countries still runs from floppy discs:

And in San Francisco, the Muni Metro light railway, which launched in 1980, won't start up each morning unless the staff in charge pick up a floppy disk and slip it into the computer that controls the railway's Automatic Train Control System, or ATCS. "The computer has to be told what it's supposed to do every day," explains a spokesman for the San Francisco Municipal Transport Agency (SFMTA). "Without a hard drive, there is nowhere to install software on a permanent basis."

This computer has to be restarted in such a way repeatedly, he adds – it can't simply be left on, for fear of its memory degrading.

In some sectors, the legacy use of floppy disks is being phased out. In 2022, a Japanese politician "declared war" on the ongoing use of older media. Subsequently, earlier this year, Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry announced that the government would no longer require businesses to submit official forms and applications on floppy disk. The Japanese government finally declared "victory" by scrapping the rules in July 2024.

Imagine having to submit official forms on floppy disks even last year 😂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Nothing is as permanent as a temporary fix!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Btw, the formatter dialog in Windows 11 setup (yeah, i had to) looks NT too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Ironically, this is the result of various people at Microsoft at various times declaring "we need to scrap all this shit and start over"

There's some logic behind each, but each time assumes they don't have to do anything to port forward the previous approach to new UX standards as those will just die out. If it was roughly 13 screenshots of different developer experience, but consistent looking and behaving UI for the actual user, everyone could just shrug, maybe developers getting a bit grumpy about Microsoft's inconsistency.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What MS needs is a new unifying framework and then they can change everything to that new standard. Call it Framework 927.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

What MS needs is a hole in the head