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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Starship is very much still being developed and failures are expected.

Every failure is a success! We're learning! Every negative is a positive if we cheer loud enough to keep the investors happy and the nerds defending our insane waste of taxpayers' money!

Failures aren't expected, actually. What's "expected" was that crewed missions to Mars were done regularly by 2025.

Meanwhile, every orbital flight ends up in the ocean.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Failures aren't expected, actually

Every single engineer I've ever met is laughing at you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, tell that to the people who engineer lifts, bridges, or literally anything that might end up costing lives.

Aw this bridge collapsed? That's expected, we'll improve next time!

As aa mech engineer, I can tell you, that anything that's worth engineering has a safety factor of 2.5-3, has a carefully predicted lifespan and maintenance cycles, and is 100% not expected to fail. A failure is always a failure, unless its specific purpose is to fail.

Sending a rocket to space and seeing half of its rockets not fire is not an "expected failure".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Safety factor on something like a rocket is much smaller. More like 1.2-1.5. Weight is so important in any sort of flight that the safety factor is reduced.

Lower safety factors don't explain the rockets abysmal failure rate though. Its a total POS by any measure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Am mechE. This is an unacceptable failure rate. It means they are several years away from manned flights on these rockets. It's a complete failure of a project currently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We were supposed to have regular ships back and forth Mars at this point and a thriving interplanetary society blah blah blah.

For what reason? what were they supposed to be ferrying? We never got that detailed out, I think we just weren't ketamined enough to understand.

Instead we have motherfucking nazis making a comeback and he's leading them. I want to speak to a manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh. Using a weird goal to push engineering boundaries isn't necessarily bad. Is going to mars sort of pointless? Yes, but it would help us continue to improve technology that otherwise not be funded.

Definitely shouldn't be giving money to the nazi though. NASA should be given all the money fElon is getting IMO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

There are so many different, and better, reasons to get rockets out into our solar system aside from trying to forcibly terraform a dead rock.

Asteroids worth trillions in precious metals, diamonds, whatever the fuck — it's out there waiting to be tapped.

Musk uses Mars as a 'weird goal' because it evokes feelings of a time when science fiction still represented 'the future that could be'. He's playing his base, nothing else. If he were actually trying to benefit humanity his focus would be the moon, then the belt.