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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It would be funny if it wasn't sponsored by taxpayers. Every blown up Starship is that many billions just, poof, gone. And yes, I know they do learn a great deal from failures as well, but the Apollo program didn't have nearly as many issues...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

sponsored by taxpayers.

Eh, only kinda. NASA have agreed to purchase Starship launch services for the Artemis program, but they aren't funding each test individually.

Every blown up Starship is that many billions just, poof

That's money that SpaceX have to pay though, not NASA. The Starship contract for Artemis is fixed-price, not cost-plus. Whether SpaceX blow up one Starship or ten during the testing phase, NASA pay the same amount for the operational flights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

And starship does not cost several billions each, maybe 1/10 that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It wouldnt have benefited taxpayers if it had launched, so that makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apollo cost about 300 billion in today's money, and spacex has gotten about 20 billion in contracts so far. Less than 10% of the cost.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Appolo did the job (with the exception of appolo 1). Because they paid the real price of a working program.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure what you're trying to say. Is spacex not doing the job it's supposed to be doing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What I'm trying to say is that there is a connection between the money invested and the quality of the result. SpaceX starship programs several times cheaper than the NASA Apollo program, but keeps failing. At the end of it, it will probably cost the same for a successful launch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

You realise NASA isn't paying for the development of Starship, yes? If spacex doesn't get it working on budget, it's spacex who's paying for it, not NASA.

What I'm trying to say is that there is a connection between the money invested and the quality of the result.

The space shuttle disagrees with you.