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Finnish presidential home and presidential castle raise trans inclusive pride flags for a week.
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this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2025
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The rainbow flag is already trans inclusive, the rainbow includes everyone
With the current significance of the movement represented by the "LGB Alliance" I don't think it's undue to stress the T.
LGBTQ+ is 100% covered by the rainbow flag. It is absolutely ridiculous to claim otherwise.
This is like insisting the American flag is only for Republicans.
I'm not saying it's not covered; I'm saying the "progressive" flags emphasize it in a time when some are attempting to co-opt the rainbow to marginalize them.
Tbf, a lot of that was driven by the wave of transwomen getting mad that lesbians aren't attracted to them. And I never saw any pushback against these posts in the trans community.
Was there right-wing groups amplifying the reach of these comments? Yes. Should the entire trans community suffer for a small number of assholes among their ranks? Hell no.
Regardless, the lack of pushback in the trans community and its effects shows the need for groups to self-regulate to some degree. There's assholes in every group, and pretending that there aren't is dangerous.
huh, sauce? I've never heard of any of that.
The BBC has an article that gives a decent overview: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385
And Vice isn't doing anyone favors by leaning into the transphobia spin: https://www.vice.com/en/article/whats-wrong-with-the-no-trans-dating-preference-debate/
A lot of this is also from personal memory. I was plugged into a lot of different communities 2018-2021on all sides of the aisle.
Thankfully people aren't yelling at lesbians about this anymore, at least not what I've seen. Unfortunately, the damage has already been done.
Also unfortunately, it seems that people aren't understanding the point of my original comment. And it's that every group has some number of assholes in it, and it's up to the group as a whole to make sure that said assholes don't ruin their reputation.
This isn't meant to bash transpeople. It's meant as a cautionary tale to avoid letting a minority of assholes set how everyone else sees the group.
That BBC article does not give a decent overview. It's hard to imagine a worse source. Google "lily cade BBC" and you'll see what I mean
It's better than the victim blaming that the Vice article participates in
My autisitic son insists that pink isn't a real color and has no business being included in any rainbow.
It doesn't have a corresponding wavelength in the spectrum of visible light, but as we perceive it to be there and have a name for it, it doesn't really matter that there's no specific wavelength it corresponds to.
By that metric abstract things likely love, justice, duty, honour, could be argued to not be real either. Can't touch them or there's no corresponding physical thing in the world to measure them.
But its nice to have the actual colors on it though. I like switching between the 2 because they both look really nice.
As a matter of color I don't like the abrupt transition from pastel cyan to brown... but it's nice for what it means.
I like this Julia Feliz diagonal one much better: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Pride_Flag_by_Julia_Feliz_2018.svg
idk it doesn't seem so jarring to me that way. Maybe because the absence of the bend avoids emphasizing the contact and thus contrast with the pastel cyan.
I believe the triangle having that shape is relevant because of other pride flags with that layout (demisexual at least) but I do find the one you posted a little nicer.
I don't really understand why progress pride flag with the intersex flag is so rare though either.
The chevron is a shape present in many flags in general.
Me neither.
To me, this looks like it would cancel the rainbow.
Definitely a strong motif of "covering up" the original rainbow/message. Black is by far the largest element. And the fold in forward implies the symmetry of the trans flag, this just completely ignores it.
I agree, we dont need more than the rainbow flag. But I feel people can put on it whatever they want. Except their genitals maybe.