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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (16 children)

What do we feel about eliminating bus fares? It'll definitely improve quality of life for drivers, riders, and new riders, but how they're going to pay for that feels like a giant missed opportunity in improving rail and the subway.

[–] Nomecks 15 points 1 week ago (13 children)

It gets paid for by savings in road network maintenance. More people on transit = less cars destroying everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Say the average bus is 10 tons empty and the average car is 2. The fourth power law states that the bus is 625x as much wear on the roads.

It'll reduce traffic jams, as well as empower people who can't, or can barely, afford the fare, but road maintenance? Not so sure.

What would help more with the road network maintenance is taxing heavy vehicles. Commercial vehicles could get a bigger threshold and personal vehicles a smaller one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Cars impose a ton of other societal costs too, busses still win. Expanding public transit usually saves money. (it helps if you can move some traffic to rail)

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