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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The core of our disagreement is this:

Plea bargains are due process.

They are not, they exist solely and explicitly to circumvent the "due process of law" particularly the 6th and 7th amendments.

prosecutors throw the kitchen sink at every case

Yes, and the fact that isn't viewed as the blatant coercion it is, and a blatant violation of the 5th amendment, is part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They are not, they exist solely and explicitly to circumvent the "due process of law" particularly the 6th and 7th amendments.

How does a plea bargain remove the defendant's right to legal counsel or a trial? It does neither of those things. Yes, it's used erroneously by prosecutors and that's a huge problem, but the accused gets counsel even if they can't pay for it and the trial is always an option.

If you're saying plea bargains are designed to intimidate people into not going to trial, yes that's true, but that's not the same thing as circumventing an amendment. That's not the same thing at all.