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Trump’s justice department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses (www.theguardian.com)
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The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million US citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023 – and it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.

According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

Edit: According to the Miami Herald, it depends on where you live:

The Supreme Court’s ruling means the judges’ injunctions blocking Trump’s executive order only affect the jurisdictions where immigrant groups filed their lawsuits — leaving the rest of the country, including Florida, subject to the president’s citizenship order. The turn of events is likely to lead to more federal lawsuits, including a class action case brought by the American Civil Liberties Union in New Hampshire on Friday.

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[–] wirebeads 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You have guns and a 2nd amendment. Strap up! This is the exact reason millions upon millions of Americans viciously defend Line item number 2 in your constitution: To fight tyranny.

If you don’t, all those years of defending it will be all for naught.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Millions upon millions of Americans have not defended the 2nd on anti-tyranny grounds. Most of them just have a hobby and think their AR-15 will someday defend their innocent white wife from bands of dangerous minorities. The 2nd Amendment people who actually believe in violent revolution (or the threat thereof) as the backstop of democracy are a tiny minority. We'd need something like "well-regulated militias" for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Looks like you're Canadian. You might want to clean your own house right now before giving advice. You have right wingers already getting way too many votes.

Also, this:

The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We're all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren't peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend's protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361

Also, this:

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power

[–] wirebeads 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong on both points. I understand we have some issues here in Canada, but luckily we’ve mostly kicked the maple maga agenda to the curb, and even the previous conservative leader not only lost out on what would have been the easiest win in decades for a government party, he also lost his seat in the house and his riding.

Protests do work, but my entire life I kept hearing from everyone about the 2nd amendment and why Americans need to have guns for this type of shit.

They pointed to Canada and more recently Australia as to why taking away their guns is bad, yet here America is now: more guns than people, but afraid to use the 2nd amendment as it’s designed to be used.

Now that it’s here, the American pro 2nd amendment crowd is largely crickets.

Trump needs to go, but more and more people are going to stop attending protests with fear of police and ice agents nabbing and deporting them, so more and more your protests simply won’t work.

Protests while rare didn’t work in Nazi Germany either and they’ll slowly stop working in the U.S..

Put fear into people, and those people will be afraid to participate.

I hope I’m wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Protests do work, but my entire life I kept hearing from everyone about the 2nd amendment and why Americans need to have guns for this type of shit.

They pointed to Canada and more recently Australia as to why taking away their guns is bad, yet here America is now: more guns than people, but afraid to use the 2nd amendment as it’s designed to be used.

The people saying these things are the right wing. There are liberal gun owners, but they usually see the nuance of the situations. Please don't treat us like a monolith. We have states that are like developing countries and education systems that are almost non-existent. And then we have other states that have the best schools in the world.