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Hispanic support for Donald Trump's deportations surges (www.newsweek.com)

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The poll found that more than 60 percent of all voters now support deportation of undocumented migrants, with Hispanic voters showing a notable uptick. In contrast, 34.7 percent opposed deportations, and four percent were unsure. Among Hispanic voters, 50 percent supported deportations and 48 percent opposed. There was a seven percent increase in overall support since May among this demographic, with an 11 percent rise among those who said they "strongly support" the policy. Among Black voters, 53 percent supported deportations, while 37 percent opposed. Overall support among this demographic increased by three percent since May. Meanwhile, support among White voters was 65 percent, while 31 percent opposed. Overall support fell by three percent since May.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You are failing to understand my point.

I don't disagree with the birth of capitalism. Although it is basically a new name for imperialism. It is the obvious effect of the post fudal middle class becoming the leadership post aristocratic rule. But it can also be an idea independent of its birth and leadership.

Where I disagree that anything currently existing can push those processes towards socialism. BRICC members are far from a socialist majority. Most nations in BRICC are equally supporting of the ideas of Capitalism. At least the ideas sold by those that use it for imperialism.

It is entirely possible. (Although far from probable) That BRICCs or a descendent from it. Will lead to the global south rising to take over from the current western default rule.

But for that future to be socialist it will need the leadership of those nations to think on socialist ways. And most simply do not do so ATM. Nor dose any probable event indicate a change in how these nations would run the world economy.

Unfortunately for Socialism to thrive. Yes you need opinions to have a major effect on world politics. Without it socialism as an ideal is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I'm not misunderstanding you, I simply disagree with you and your frame of analysis. Not everyone you speak to that disagrees is misunderstanding you, same with me.

You have a very idealist frame of analysis. Capitalism's persistence is not due to ideas, but material conditions. The compulsion for socialism isn't something won over because some people have socialist ideas, but because capitalism necessarily paves the way for socialism and creates its own demise.

Plus, the PRC is the largest economy in BRICS, and is a socialist country. Even if your frame of analysis requiring BRICS to have large socialist elements to supplant capitalism was correct, it's already correct, China eclipses every other economy in BRICS.