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[–] blunderworld 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine is fighting in self-defense. So yeah, fuck Putin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

but then it's fuck russia too

[–] Luci 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No. Fuck Russian leadership. Let's make it clear, the aggression is Putin and his choices.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

and most of the russian people are supporting it...I wish it would be different, but even with more than a year into it, with all the sanctions, the deaths, the changed lifestyle, 2/3 of the russian population (rich, poor, countryside or towns) are supporting the russian leadership and the war...

[–] Luci 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd claim support too if the alternative was jail.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

that's too easy...the hate for all what is west is anchored deeply in the russian society. This country has been brainwashed for centuries.

[–] Luci 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

still it was accepted by the russians for centuries...sorry this country could have put putin and his propaganda down but they decided against it, to keep their lifestyle...

I abhor russia for that.

[–] blunderworld 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In a way, can you blame the average Russian for being afraid to speak out against leadership, whatever their personal feelings may be? Ever heard of Lenin? Stalin? The Romanovs? Political dissidents are not and never were treated kindly in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yes I do!

I have friends who left russia or belarus for speaking out what they think of this perverted vision of russia! They did not held back and it's the fault of the russian people that they have this leadership, because they rather accepted it for all the years instead rising against it!

Putin has all the power because not enough people fought him!

[–] blunderworld -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If only all Russians were so brave. Not sure I would be in a country where you can be arrested for literally saying Two words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

then do not wonder if at some point in the future they still knock on your door and deport you and your family...

[–] blunderworld 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All Russians? I dont think they'd fit on my front porch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] blunderworld 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right, so in other words, not "all russians" are cunts. Which is exactly the point ive been trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

most of them then and I never wrote that all russians stand behind putin

[–] blunderworld -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alright pal I have better things to do than argue with a stranger on the internet all day. Keep living in your fantasy world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

u too ✌️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, this is due to propaganda, made and controlled by Russian leadership. There is no independent press or TV in Russia.

[–] blunderworld -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The average Russian isn't to blame. Are many of them brainwashed? Yes, but that alone doesn't make them evil. Also, I'm pretty sure you made up that 2/3 of Russians statistic.

Don't let the decisions of a handful of legacy-obsessed warmongers trick you into hating the population of an entire country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] blunderworld -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did you even read the article you posted?

According to the most recent ExtremeScan poll, support for the war fell 13% in one year β€” from 64% in March and April 2022 to 51% in April 2023. That is significant, but it’s clearly not enough to make the Putin regime tremble.Β Β 

There is some greater light cast by other surveys, however. Russian Field found that only 27% of Russians support further military escalation while 34% want peace talks. Slightly confusingly, 33% favor both options at the same time. The trends are clear enough β€” backing for the war is on a slowly declining path and the issue is extremely divisive. More importantly, the reasons and justifications people use to make sense of the war have shifted.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not just Putin. A lot of Russians actually support the war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

@Zoldyck @Luci
And are apparently still actively vacationing in Crimea which is absurd. War needs to be brought to their ignorant asses hard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That’s a metric fuckton of Putin clones fighting in this war then.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope him and every single one of his enablers take a ripe pineapple up the butt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla 1 points 2 years ago

Probably... but it would be a nice start.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Fuck the Kremlin and CCP.