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From the book "Stalin" the seminal work of Historian Domenico Losurdo

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (45 children)

Yeah have you ever lived in the USSR? Have you ever been to a post soviet country? Yeah...

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

You said the standards of living in the USSR in 1950 was “incredibly low”, have you ever lived in former British and French colonies in Asia?

Many countries in Asia still haven’t yet achieved independence by 1950, and I can assure you that the standards of living in the USSR was already leaps and bounds beyond most of the world at the time, and comparable to post-war Western Europe and would have easily surpassed them if Western Europe never had the luxury of receiving the vast amount of financial aid from their American masters through the Marshall Plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Yes because this is how geopolitics work. The USSR basically entirely in Europe. The living standards should be comparable to what europe was like. And not what africa was like. Or Mars.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It was comparable to Western Europe even without the Marshall Plan, what are you talking about lol. This is 1950 we’re talking about, much of Europe was still in ruins thanks to Nazism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like honestly, I won't comment on any of this anymore. But where are you guys from? Because you are either Russian, and sucking the dicks of a failed dictator, or you are from several continents away, with no context to any of this, and then you just are a bunch of useful idiots to a failed dictator. Answer this one honestly. Either to me or to yourselves...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

man got owned so hard he dropped the mask, went straight for homophobia, then dropped the dorkiest line i've ever read on lemmy lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Damn I gotta check the mod log for this

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hardly think the guy who beat the nazis and raised standards of living in the USSR from borderline starvation to comparable with western Europe in a couple decades a failure. There were regular famines before Stalin; after Stalin there were none until capitalism reversed all that progress, immiserated the populace, and decreased all measurements of human development by similar numbers to WWII.

The CIA admits he wasn't a dictator, merely representing the dictatorship of the proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't care what the CIA thinks of stalin. Like how is the fucking CIA an authority on europe in the 60-s. Also Stalin didn't beat the nazis. The british did.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

The British?

Lol good bit

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the British very nearly got wiped off the map. what are you talking about. it was the Eastern front that saved Britain, by their own admission.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the British very nearly got wiped off the map

sicko-wistful

nazi germany and british empire taking each other out would've been the best possible outcome. Yeah I know anglo island was severely weakened by the war but still

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