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To echo some of the thoughts of those below:
This was one of the first communities I made here on lemmy, because I was disappointed in /r/piracy for two reasons:
I realize most of that is unavoidable self-policing, because reddit is a US-based company that must adhere to the US's draconian copyright and IP laws. Lemmy is self-hostable, and doesn't have that problem. Outside of illegal or harmful content, there's no reason for us to remove anything piracy-related. So a lot of those bans and removals are probably not the mod's fault, its work reddit requires you to do to have a presence there.
A lot of people on /r/piracy either support or half-support centralized services like netflix and spotify. Copy-leftists like myself believe these services are really harmful to keeping data alive and shared. People that either never torrented in the first place, or that have moved off torrenting, make one less seeder, or adder of new content. I can't even find some newer documentaries and music on torrents, because netflix and spotify have successfully captured and privatized that data, and new people no longer have a pro-sharing mentality: Netflix lets them have an "I got mine" mentality.
So counter to /r/piracy, [email protected] has a strict anti-centralized services rule.
At the same time, I welcome genuine pro-piracy mods from reddit who would like to get started over here, and do a better job building and growing this community more than I ever could. If you sticky a post or put something in the sidebar of /r/piracy having this as a backup, I'll mod you. Or you could just make another piracy community here, something like
/c/piracynewsand have control over that community.cc @[email protected]
Unfortunately, point A is unavoidable. We already got contacted by the reddit admins with an almost impossible demand (police not only new stuff, but also historical stuff) so we had to take a very draconian approach to avoid takedown.
While I agree with point B myself, being a staunch proponent of copylefts, it doesn't make sense to censor people for not being as radical as we area. It's by rubbing noses with us that they will change their tune.
To be clear, I am generally not against being more explicit anti-centralized, but while growing /r/piracy, it didn't make sense.
Done. Check the the sidebar in https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/
The main objective here is to be able to redirect people over and make sure we don't splinter the community if and when reddit takes action against /r/piracy.
Lemmy is the place you'd want to move people to in case of a greater calamity as federated Lemmy is by nature more community controlled than Reddit or any centralized alternative could literally ever be.
There's other alternatives, like Aether or my own lemmy instance. But I tend to try the path of least resistance first.
Aether is fine but development is pretty dead compared to lemmy and it's fucking Electron.
yeah lemmy is much better than Aether right now
Also I'm not completely sure their democratic/reputation system actually works in practice, since it has never been enabled.
Cool, I got you modded now.
BTW if anyone else would like to be modded and help grow this community, lmk.
Cheers! I'll make a sticky in /r/piracy soon to make people update their bookmarks and maybe we can have some early adopters here as well
This is great news =).
I find the megathread on reddit really useful, are you involved in making it? Would it be possible for it to be posted/pinned here whenever it is updated?
At this point you should let Reddit ban /r/piracy. Less page views for them the better.
Losing /r/piracy would be a real shame. I haven't had a reddit account in years, but I still visit occasionally because the megathread and other things are such great resources (especially when I need to grab stream links for friends too scared to torrent). It's important for outreach, whether we like it or not.