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The inherent problem with creating a new browser/platform is getting people to create addons/extensions for it.

If you don’t think Google could do this, think again. Google has an iron grip on the Chromium project.

From the beginning of its time with Google, Android was touted as THE open-source phone operating system. The Android Open Source Project was used by several projects to create their own version of Android.

Then at a certain point, Google introduced an app called Google Play Services. This app is not open source and contains all of the stuff you need to access Google’s services.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Years ago, I would have recommended Firefox as a good alternative option. However, in the last couple of years, the Mozilla Foundation has been speaking more and more favorably of censorship.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

This is a problem I see in privacy circles a lot. Yes, Mozilla definitely has a lot of problems, but people immediately start saying that it's just as bad as Google and/or that you should use a Firefox version that's entirely forked and not dependent on the upstream Mozilla repo or something.

IMO, at most use Fennec F-droid and IceCat (which still rely on the upstream Mozilla code) if you can't stand Mozilla, but to say that they're just as bad as Google is just wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago

You can use Pale Moon or Basilisk based browsers that are developed independently. Only in security backports things from Mozilla Firefox but it is not dependent on it and it is only to make implementation faster.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

They are not close to Google but they are still doing pretty shady shit:

  • That "fake news detection" or whatever feature
  • Google Safe Browsing
  • Integrating Widevine etc.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I mentioned Widevine in the article. They came out and said they don't support open source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

I'm a bit on the fence regarding WideVine. It is important to keep everything open, but broad adoption is also important. Not implementing DRM would make Firefox unusable for many users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

They are clearly not sponsored by Brave.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Pretty much any american foundation has been capture by this cultural revolution occurring in the USA. It's not very close but there are some parallels to the Chinese cultural revolution, where a country cuts off its nose in spite of its face. IMO the European software foundations are less affected by sociopolitical upheaval happening in the states. KDE, Debian, and other European based FOSS programs haven't had to jump through the same hoops. I hope KDE Falkon gets a resurgence because of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

What are you talking about and what does that have to do with my comment?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Mozilla Corp is based in California.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

That still has nothing to do with the comment I left that you replied to. Find somewhere else to soapbox.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Sorry bud, I can soapbox anywhere I want on Lemmy, just like you friend! If you don't like what I have to say you can down vote me, but telling me to go away is immature.

If you don't see the connection to what I'm saying to what you wrote then that's your lack of understanding, not mine or others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Oh, okay. Then the response I'm looking for is,

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 years ago

Certainly your right to roll your eyes, much like I'm rolling my eyes at your response 😉