News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
Hang on before go off half cocked. Did you not read my first post which addresses your whole argument against the post you're responding to? Read that one to catch up with the conversation, please.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't propose this at all.
The reality that this article is discussing is that young adults are continuing to live at home in some western countries. It would be great if all the economic and societal factors causing this would be corrected overnight (such as housing shortage, income inequality, health care costs, cost of secondary education, etc), but that's not going to happen.
So with that in mind, we deal with the situation we have, and that may mean multi-generational households. I said look to other cultures to see how it works there for guidance on how we make our own path. I did not say "make a carbon copy of them".
That's fine man, I'm sorry I missed your previous comment. I'm not here to argue with you about it, because you're clearly aware, and on a similar page. Cheers!
No worries! We're in violent agreement that not only do many western homes create toxic environments for their kids growth and expression, but also other cultures (some of which are multi-generational) also do this and potentially even more extreme.
I'm also interested in your opinions on addressing this for western homes. I certainly don't have the answers either. Even if we're just discussing it, its important to call out as many challenges as we can envision, and perhaps find ways to protect the safety and autonomy all involved.
Well, as long as you're interested, my take is that "Work From Home" is the future and we have tons of homes that sit empty in "undesirable" cities that are only undesirable because of the lack of jobs. If there is decent internet connectivity, these could become Tech boom-towns. We have way more empty housing than we have homeless. Some groups estimate upwards of 28 empty homes per homeless person. Some of those buildings are unlivable at this point, but they still have the bones of things like plumbing and foundation to be able to rebuild relatively cheaply.
I always think of Aberdeen, Washington as a prime example. It's been a hollowed out shell for decades since the logging industry changed in the state. It's where Kurt Cobain was from and the hard drug scene in the poor, broken town was a big part of why he ended up an addict himself.
The thing is, Aberdeen could be beautiful and revitalized, and all it really needs is people moving there, living there, and spending money locally there. That can be solved by escaping this bullshit "Return to Office" mandate driven by established companies who don't want to lose money on their investment in commercial real estate. Those companies need to be allowed to fail. This too big to fail shit has gone on way, way, way too long. It's artificially reducing competition and entrenching the largest as permanent fixtures in our economy, while the quality of services and products they offer quickly goes down the toilet (See: Boeing).
Creating remote work boom-towns won't solve current homelessness issues, but it can alleviate housing pressure by giving people an avenue to purchase a home in affordable area. Of course, corporations don't give a shit and want to pay you less because your cost of living is less, readily admitting that the value you produce has zero bearing on how much they are willing to pay you (another fucking reason for these god damned dinosaurs to fucking die). That in itself is tied to the exploitation of workers in other countries and how we were willing to pay them according to the "local economy" instead of saying "they deserve just as much pay as a US worker." Every time we allow corporations to export fucking bullshit to other countries, it eventually finds its way home. So, laws would need to be passed about this, but we can really only expect those on the state level.
Further, there's the whole zoning debacle. Japan definitely helped resolve a lot of their housing affordability issues by removing zoning and having nearly anywhere be acceptable for a business to exist. This led to lots of people running businesses out of their homes, etc, and giving them more control over how they could finance their home.
Anyway, there's lots that could be done, but a lot of it comes down to lack of political willpower and corporations wanting to wring blood from stones.
...and...
I like the idea at first glance, but I'm skeptical. There are towns across America that are in similar decline because the reason for their existence is an industry that has moved on or evaporated with time. Coal mining towns come to mind too. Crumbling infrastructure is really expensive to rebuild. Possibly more so than new "clean slate" builds. Further, even if the money (which would be massive) is spent once, it needs a tax base to sustain it or it will fall into disrepair again. If we're revitalizing homes in small towns and rural communities, is that the best use of limited resources to create more sustainable housing?
I'm a big proponent of Remote Work myself and I believe "return to office" is a waste of time and energy. I'm more on the path of taking those now empty office spaces and turning them into residences as a path forward. The infrastructure is already built, usually including well established light rail and public transportation, as well as a decent number of support businesses (shops and restaurants) already existing in former business districts where these office buildings would be. The transition of the office space itself won't be without challenges, but the existing high quality construction of the buildings and high density of resulting residences means a faster turn around and better potential in my mind for a sustainable solution.
Due to Republican fuckery only blue States work for this but WA is blue so no problem. Universal fiber to the home is a good idea. States need to pass state level zoning level reform and generally preempt local laws on urban planning but WA already has made some progress on this with HB 1110 last year