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[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I'm closer to a carnivore than a vegan, but if something is good, it's good. I'm not going to hate on something delicious because I feel threatened by someone else's life choices.

Don't worry, farmers; if I start eating vegan cheese I promise I'll make up for it in beef consumption.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of vegan "alternatives" are actually really good when you know what you're doing with them. I will take tofu or mushrooms over meat any day tbh. Problem is some people don't know that and will just prepare tofu like it's meat, and then wonder why their tofu tastes like shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I tried tofu multiple times in different meals as a alternative for meat, but sadly all were disappointing. Do you have recipes that you can recommend? I am eager to find one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im both a meat eater and tofu lover. Mapo tofu is probably one of my favorite dishes.

This is the recipe I sort of follow https://thewoksoflife.com/ma-po-tofu-real-deal/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

They're not mutually exclusive. For those too lazy to follow the link - traditional mapo tofu (like many Chinese tofu recipes) isn't vegetarian . Tofu as a total replacement for meat is a Western idea - in most Eastern cultures that use it, tofu is just another ingredient and often used along with meat and animal based broths. The same is true of soy milk.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would you consider reducing according to carbon footprint?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I live mostly on beer, so I'm doing my part.

[–] cyborganism 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. I had some green Thai curry "duck" at a vegan restaurant once and it was the bomb!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you put Thai curry on anything, it's going to taste awesome. Panang for life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Panang gang, rise up!!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Might want to switch to other animals, beef is questionable ATM.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Has it been confirmed that Bird Flu is transferable via beef? Legit question, I just haven't seen any news about that recently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the crisis that a public health bulletin stating "red meat should be cooked thoroughly" would cause. Heh heh heh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

“Consuming raw or undercooked meats, poultry, seafood, shellfish or eggs may increase your risk of foodborne illness" has been the standard disclaimer since 2016, but nobody's thrown a fit, even though there's a big difference between a rare steak and rare burger (the interior of the ground beef has been exposed, the interior of the steak has not).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Remnants of bird flu have been found in bovine milk and recently sampled in 20% of milk in grocery stores. So far, it's been determined to just be "genetic material" - not live or infectious. Milk is pasteurized in the US so it's reasonably safe to keep drinking. I don't believe this would impact beef consumption, certainly not cooked beef.
Beth Mole at Ars Technica has been covering it https://arstechnica.com/author/beth/
The CDC is reporting at least one dairy worker has been infected https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0401-avian-flu.html

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I haven't heard anything about it, only that it's been detected in milk and pasteurization kills it. Cooking should kill it if it's in meat anyway. At least to medium, preferably to full doneness.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's been confirmed. Here's your chance to be #1.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think only prions can spread through meat

Edit: I'm obviously wrong, salmonella exists. Also a quick Google search says viruses can also be transferred through meat

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

All of my beef is in my freezer from a local farmer about two months ago. Hopefully it's clear.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I'm also a meat eater but Impossible burgers hold a special place in my heart. If I'm craving a whopper I'll always go for the Impossible whopper instead - it's just so much more satisfying.

Similarly, the meat quality at my local Chinese spots is questionable so I always get tofu instead.

I'm down to only eating meat half of days, and only for dinner, vs eating meat with every meal every day. My wallet and waistline have thanked me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

from personal experience, veggie burgers make excellent topping-condiments to regular burgers

they have all the flavors a burger wants

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I like this suggestion. Plus it still ultimately reduces beef consumption because maybe I only eat one of these doubles instead of two burgers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Damn, who would have thought liking good food would be so controversial xD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Every time I eat vegan cheese my mouth says this ain't quite right. But the taste is usually fine.