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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (16 children)

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

Conservatism is a philosophy, not a party. We are realists, the Left are anti-realists.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (15 children)

@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

> Conservatism is a philosophy

Fair enough; Conservatism is pretty broad so it can be as libertarian as it can be fascist.

I care too much about supporting small government and principles over people to want to associate too closely with the modern right, who I feel is increasingly okay with authoritarianism (look at their support of #DeSantis for example)

> We are realists, the Left are anti-realists.

That's kind of a childish way to view things.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

I disagree; egalitarianism is an anti-realist philosophy.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen That's a different argument than the one you put forth though.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

Egalitarianism is the root of the Left; it is an ideology. Conservatism is a folkway, which means we prefer time-proven solutions, which requires measurement by reality not human judgment. This naturally leads to a need for social order on a case-by-case basis anchored in a few general principles instead of One Big Idea.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

> Egalitarianism is the root of the Left

Are you sure about this?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen Imagine a horse with two legs. Doesn't mean that four legs are what makes a horse a horse. That's a parts-to-whole fallacy.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

The core philosophy of the Left is egalitarianism; this is inherent in their origin both in the ancient times and in Revolutionary France.

"left, in politics, the portion of the political spectrum associated in general with egalitarianism and popular or state control of the major institutions of political and economic life."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/left

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

A couple more links:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/egalitarianism/

https://iep.utm.edu/egalitarianism/

These are about the philosophy, but you can see the divisions in Leftism from classical liberal through Communism play out in these arguments.

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