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This isn't fancy but it's my comfort food. My family has been making this and calling it macaroni since before I was born. It's a super simple recipe that I cook mostly in the winter. Across the Midwest US this is known as (American) Goulash.

I start with 1 Kg (2 lb) ground beef, a large onion, 600 g (4 cups) of macaroni elbows (or other unit pasta), two 798 ml (27 oz?) cans of crushed or diced tomatoes, dry basil, dry oregano, garlic powder, salt, and the secret ingredient, ketchup.

I dice up the onion, heat up a deep frying pan, add a bunch of butter (30 ml, 2 T), and toss in the onions frying them until they start to caramelize. Then I add in the ground beef and fry it until there is no more visible red and I think it's mostly cooked. Next I add in all of the diced/crushed tomatoes, a palm full (seriously, that's how I do it...maybe between 15 ml and 30 ml (1T and 2T) each of dry basil and dry oregano, around 5 ml (1 t) of garlic powder, and around 10 ml (2 t) of salt. Finally, I add a good squirt of ketchup (maybe...250 ml, 1 c). I stir it up, bring it to a simmer, and turn the heat down to hold the simmer.

Next, I boil the elbows until they are al dente. When the elbows are ready I drain them and shake the colander to get rid of as much water as possible then dump the elbows into the sauce and mix. From there it goes straight into bowls.

Between you and me, I think it's actually better the next day fried in a frying pan with butter but that's just me...and my father...and my son.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

thanks for including the recipe.

my dad has made a version of this since before i was born (45 years). he prefers the shell macaroni, but any will do. and rather than ketchup, his secret ingredient is a coupla cans of mushroom soup.

calls it "cowboy surprise" (also goulash), and i agree that it hits the comfort button.

[–] MapleEngineer 2 points 2 years ago

Oh, that's interesting. I will use whatever kind of unit pasta I have around. I've used various tubes and swirls. Does he use big shells of small ones? I always find them very delicate.

Do you pan fry it the next day? I have several times made it, put it in the fridge, and saved it for the next day. My son, now 14, loves it pan fried. I learned that from my father and passed it down to my son.

[–] SirAramis 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn, that looks delicious! Would goulash be categorized as a kind of pasta? It seems to be of Hungarian origin though

[–] MapleEngineer 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is just macaroni. They call it goulash in Michigan and other states. It is different than Hungarian goulash. I just call it goulash because one of my coworkers told me that it was goulash. My family calls is macaroni.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's why my mom called it goulash! Those ~~Michiganders~~ midwesterners. I was confused when I saw what proper/original goulash was.

[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago

I had never heard it called anything but macaroni until my coworker from Michigan called it that. I thought it was funny and adopted it. That may be how it spread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Adding pasta to goulash isn't unheard of. Usually, you eat it with bread but pasta makes a decent substitute or change to it. I would never go so far as to call goulash a pasta dish. The amount of pasta used in OP's picture is also more than I would say is common. And pasta doesn't work with every type of goulash either. There are many different kinds of goulash.

But as OP has said the dish isn't a traditional goulash. It's missing the key ingredient paprika. Basil and oregano aren't spices commonly found in goulash (EDIT: Oregano probably is fine since marjoram is more commonly found and they are very similar). And I also haven't seen ground beef being used. These are what make me think this isn't a goulash, not the pasta.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Curious. In Australia we would use spaghetti and call it spaghetti bolognaise (our national dish). I thought goulash was a type of stew?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You’re not wrong, traditional Hungarian goulash is indeed a slow simmered beef stew, but it has (imo) a pretty interesting story!

Throughout the Middle Ages, goulash migrated around, integrating itself into the flavors and tastes of lots of other old world cultures, like Albania and even Ethiopia, who still have their own version of goulash too which also resembles a type of stew.

In the mid-too-late-19th century many Hungarians migrated to The United States, so in keeping tradition, goulash integrated itself into the tastes and flavors of American culture, and thus what we see above was born. Even different regions within the states have their own version. In the Midwest (states like Minnesota, the Dakotas, Michigan) it can resemble more of a casserole, whereas the southern states, it could include chicken and rice.

What connects them all is really that it’s a comfort food, made in a single pot, and best eaten with family!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That's really interesting! I once ate yak goulash in Bhutan - it was delicious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Gulyás is not a stew! You are thinking of pörkölt, that's what most other nations call "goulash". Gulyás is a soup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to add peas, corn and chopped carrot to this to get my kids to eat their veggies.
Shred some Colby + Parmesan over the top.
I still make it this way even though they're adults now, it's just the family bolognese. 🤷.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

spaghetti bolognese with peas is super underrated IMO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TIL that Goulash is Beefaroni.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Only in the midwest. If you call this Goulash to a Hungarian person their heads would explode.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That looks amazing. My mom made something similar when I was a kid.

[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago

Back when I was a kid this was a cheap meal. My family was not flush with money so this was a regular meal. I came to love it and have passed that love on to my son. I expect that he will pass it on to his son when the time comes. It's funny that the simplest of meals can become such a comfort food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

it has nothing common with goulash. just call it american.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Goulash is such an unappetizing word, that being said, I love it and was raised on the stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you think “goulash” is bad, try calling it slumgullion!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Wow that’s terrible too! Sounds like a foot disease.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The classic midwestern goulash. Not too related to real goulash but amazing none the less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was wondering as I did not think goulash had pasta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It does not traditionally have pasta. This is also missing paprika the foundational spice.

Still a great dish though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My mom always put kidney beans in hers. She wasn't the BEST cook.

[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago

I love kidney beans...maybe just not in macaroni. Your mom was probably just trying to trick you into eating beans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bro, that's a tasty meal right there!

[–] MapleEngineer 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We love it. It really is better fried in butter in a pan the next day. I like it just a little crispy around the edges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My mom had a similar recipe that I still make to this day. She called it poor man's bolognese (it sounds better in Estonian) . Basically it was just ground beef, tomatoes, macaroni and seasoning. You added ketchup after cooking though. It's a really quick and simple meal when you have like half the ingredients for bolognese or the cheese is 7 euros like it is now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds very similar to Johnny Marzetti, an Ohio-area dish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I cook the same dish with small variations (i change herbs and spices from time to time and sometimes add crushed tomatoes instead of ketchup) pretty often too. Quick and tasty. That's hardly a goulash though.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Admittedly, I've never made it myself but I've always heard that paprika was a staple in goulash? Either way, looks tasty!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OP's recipe is an American goulash. What you're thinking of is likely a Czech goulash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware of the US version - they sound quite different but both nice in their own way!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The American version has always been a childhood favorite. But the first time I had the Czech version, I was completely blown away by how delicious it was.

[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This isn't the same thing as Hungarian goulash. This is just macaroni that the Americans call goulash. I started calling it goulash because one of my coworkers from Michigan told me that that is what they call it. My family just calls it macaroni.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah gotcha - it seems like there are a lot of dishes that evolved as they moved across the world and cultures collided. It's quite interesting to see.

[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago

I have no idea why they call it goulash in the midwest. It has nothing to do with goulash. I enjoy it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

A staple in my house growing up, we literally called it "shit" and it included kidney beans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks great! Here we skip all the fancy fresh ingredients, just elbow macaroni, ground beef, onions and drown it in ketchup. And we call it "junkie stew".

[–] MapleEngineer 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. This is quick and dirty comfort food. I do all of the prep including filling a pot with water. As soon as I start cooking the onions I turn the water on. I can generally have the sauce ready to dump into the noodles by the time the noodles are done cooking. It's better if you let the sauce simmer for a while but you can slam it together in 15 minutes once you have the prep done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Thats just beef macaroni my dude. Calling it goulash without paprika is probably a gonna be a food crime to many.

[–] MapleEngineer 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My family has always called it macaroni. A coworker from Michigan told me that they call it goulash so I started calling it goulash as a joke. I've updated the title of this post (Lemmy is awesome in that regard) a couple of times to incorlorate feedback from the community.

American Goulash

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Only slightly related but my favorite nickname for this dish, which I learned from the top recipe link Google showed me in my results was "Slumgullion"

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[–] MapleEngineer 1 points 2 years ago

My family calls is macaroni. An American coworker pointed out that the call out goulash so I started calling it that as a joke.

American Goulash

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