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Well, well, well. I see Sony wants to kill all the goodwill their game has garnered with this linking bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whelp, it was fun while it lasted... Good job sony.

Apparently this is already a massive problem for people who are in countries that PSN is not avalible in, using a VPN to create an account to link to has resulted in getting banned. Also seeing as most players are already past the Steam refund window, this is utterly unacceptable.

I dont want to blame Arrowhead too much, this reeks of partnership/publisher meddeling. If they made it so that linking account is not required if crossplay is disabled, I would find that acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Note that the refund window is for it to be automatically approved. Beyond that it has to be manually reviewed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I requested a refund. They said since it's been 2 week they cannot provide a refund at this time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Appeal. Everyone should do it. Force their hand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I submitted a ticket to AH directly. But if that fails I'll do another one with steam

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've heard that steam is approving pretty much all refunds for HD2 now, worth a try to request it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I hope so. I've been rejected 4 times now. But I keep trying

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

I set Steam to ignore all Playstation products, but I've been meaning to do that for over a year now. It has nothing to do with Helldivers. I don't Sony anymore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Anyone know if Ghost of Tsushima is gonna require a PSN account? You know, since they're adding in that whole overlay thing. I always figured it was gonna be optional but now, I'm not so sure.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would assume it will. Lesson learned: even if it doesn't at launch, they could decide to require it at any time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Devil's advocate...

For Helldivers specifically here, the PSN requirement was listed on the Steam page at launch. It wasn't enforced, but it was disclosed.

Not saying I agree, it's a shitty move that definitely seems like it's being forced by Sony who couldn't care any less about publicity. But this requirement was already there for anyone that bothered to read the store page, even if it wasn't enforced at the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If that's the case, then the game should not have been sold to those in countries that don't have access to psn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No argument from me there. Especially since they're saying the only reason it wasn't required was some sort of technical issue at launch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

According to their Twitter account it's only required for online legends access. Single player requires no account

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Account required of you want the multiplayer aspect, which is why I will not buy it since that's the only reason I want to buy and play it since I've already finished it on the PS4 with a physical copy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our players

Could someone elaborate on this? How does linking protect players?

Edit: Found this video about the subject that seems to describe the situation well. (I am not affiliated with that video/content creator.)

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The post says this: "This is our main way to protect players from griefing and abuse by enabling the banning of players that engage in that type of behaviour. It also allows those players that have been banned the right to appeal."

I find that of dubious justification, but that's their explanation.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I also find it to be bullshit since steam already has a way to ban and a appeals process they can follow.

Nah, this is just corporate meddling to get more data to mine and sell and let it be stolen when Sony inevitably allows another data breach.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Sounds familiar to the reasoning they gave for having root level cheat detection in their game.

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

It lets players have their data leaked in one of Sony's biweekly data breaches

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our player *'s information from getting sold without them getting a piece of the pie

*fixed