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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And there's so many idiots defending this shit in the replies 😭

"But she's a celebrity! But she sometimes rents her plane, so it's not all her! But she does charitable actions sometimes!"

Fucking hell, I hate celebrities.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

sometimes

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

jesus christ, why can't they use a regular plane? they fly the same air. I hate celebrity culture.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In some cases for equipment a normal plane would probably be over capacity, even your average band travels with a load of equipment. And they want to make sure it arrives there safely.

But I'm glad the article actually pointed out private planes because I absolutely hate those people that tell us to "stop flying". The plane will be taking off whether I'm in it or not, and airlines have showed they will not reduce the frequency of their flights anyway.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A modern band tour almost certainly requires trucks for the equipment. If you are touring overseas, you typically will rent most of the heavy stuff in the country you are traveling to. The bands core equipment like guitars and drums and shit can definitely be checked on commercial flights.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I 100% agree with you that private planes are a huge issue, and totally separate from public airline travel. We'd also probably agree that government subsidy of airlines is a problem with a political rather than civic solution (tax cuts, bailouts, public spending on airports). On the personal, if you don't believe your plane ticket has any direct economic impact on the airline, and the future of the route you're flying then sure, it's debatable, who knows? Probably not even airline execs. But another, better reason to not fly is cultural: this deeply unsustainable activity is currently completely socially normalised, and denormalising it seems like a critical part of the solution to me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

The good thing is that we can play one of her bangers while she is facing the wall

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This shit right here is exactly why I hate the Neo-Malthusian "there aren't enough resources on earth for any more people". Yes there fucking are we just need to cull this kind of behavior and adapt our mode of living (getting off fossil fuel energy would eventually permit us to have our cake and eat it too).

This shit is peak crapitalism. (crap isn't strong enough, it should be shititalism or something). Sorry for swearing so much this just really pisses me off.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

@witlessworm @muad_dibber this "there's a problem with overpopulation" shit is just code for "i don't want brown people to reproduce"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

death to their intelligentsia!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please don't insult intelligentsia by lumping it with "celebrities".

Also welcome back, we missed you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My mistake comrade!

And I'm glad to be back!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Who wouldn't? I am amazing after all

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But remember, it's YOUR PERSONAL responsibility to save the environment. Not the aristocratic class with their excessive lives or the gigacorporations'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

G‐d, I hate that mentality. It implies that we’re all just as culpable as the upper classes for the earth’s decay, which is classist and demonstrably untrue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wrong focus again. Although this is bad... They don't count the pentagon when it comes to this shit. A few sorties probably waste a lot more fuel than a thousand Taylor swifts

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Well yeah, but lib culture has all these "stop picking on my favorite bourgeoisie 😭" stans and they need to see the divide in class interests with their own eyeballs, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just because one entity is worse than another doesn't mean we should ignore the lesser-of-the-evils entity. It is entirely possible to abolish both the uber-proletarian elite and the imperialist military arm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh I agree. My point is that, without the state dept reducing its pollution, that earth is still hurdling towards disaster and these celebs are minor. From extinction rebellion to people commenting on celeb waste, I never see the military mentioned is all, although in magnitude they are dozens of multiples worse.