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Citing gallup sources is Russian propaganda? Lmao are US schools just propaganda conditioning centers or what
Hey Russia is more than welcome to go back home any day and they there will be peace.
Like blaming a strike on the workers. "Stupid workers picketing for better wages!". Distraction tactic. Management can pay a fair wage and it will be over tonight.
Russia can go home and there would be peace tomorrow
No it wouldn't, delusional as usual from libs. Ukraine was bombing Donbas from 2015, killing upwards of 14k people.
This was after the Minsk II accords where they negotiated, which is very reminiscent of the Israeli tactics in Lebanon of announcing a ceasefire and insisting only your opponent abide by it. It's reminiscent because that's the standard US client tactic, which they implement with complicity from the media knowing libs treat contradictory evidence as propaganda.
You know a great way they could stop that from happening? Exiting the country they invaded.
Did your script get jammed? They were bombing Donbas in violation of the peace deal for years after Russians had already exited the country.
If the US insists on its clients violating brokered agreements, they shouldn't be surprised when others don't trust their word.
Got it. So for that instance, a great way to have peace would for be for them not to do that.
A great way to have peace right now would be for Russia to leave. Like a great way for there to have peace would be for everyone to just.... Have peace. Easy peasy.
Christ, I can get more intelligent conversation from a 7 year old anywhere in the world than a western adult I stg. It's like talking to Matt Miller.
Correct! The way to get peace really is so simple that a 7 year old could have thought of it!
Y'all can't even fucking read lmao not even pretending you found a gotcha, just doing madlibs with a word or two you found in the comment.
No wonder it's so easy to propagandize you.
If everyone around you disagrees with you, maybe it's time to be open to the posibility that you are wrong?
I learned this from a friend of mine: If a crowd of people tells you that you’re blind drunk, perhaps consider that you might actually be.
Same principle. Happy to see someone pushing it out there.
If everyone around you disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to be open to the posibility that you are wrong?
give it time and you'll see how reality makes us all aware
everyone else has work to do to put food on the table; we can't respond as quickly.
Nah, I base my opinion around the evidence. If the consensus of the US and Western Europe was what drove my opinion, I'd have been in favor of killing Gaddafi, invading Iraq, torturing Asians in Vietnam, bombing Iran, and all other sorts of monstrous shit.
I'll wait for y'all to pretend you were always on the fence or against but simultaneously there was no way of knowing, since only the tankies were saying it and we know we can't trust those.
Please bless us with some sources so that we can read more & discuss deeper.
I think the Twitter bots would happily agree with you, but you don't have much support to collect from here.
One look into your comment history tells me everything I need to know about your opinions.
Libs doing cartwheels to not engage with the evidence lmao. Are Ukrainians not wanting peace deals? If so, they should get them then. Fuck if a gringo thinks they oughta die because they think Ukrainians should keep fighting.
I don’t give a fuck about libs or any of the political parties in the States.
Libs == liberals == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property
Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. As a legal concept, private property is defined and enforced by a country's political system.
In other words, liberals are capitalism stans.
You're still doing the propaganda work of the gringos.
The point is, Ukrainians want it, Ukrainians should get it. You think the war should continue? That's fine, get your country to wage it so you can go and fight it.
I'm not assuming anyone is Russian but nice try. I assume most of the negative ones are either American or Western European, because that's almost the only regions where Russia is viewed very unfavorably by a clear majority, and this site skews anglo as shit, that is the UK, the US, and Australia.
I'm not for more war, but y'all weirdos hear "we should listen to ukrainians and initiate peace talks" and interpret "we should unconditionally surrender the entirety of Ukraine and then most of eastern europe while we're at it", maybe because the only peace you'd accept is the unconditional surrender of Russia and its balkanization. Hate to break it to you, it's not happening. Russia's economy is outperforming most western ones, is growing faster than all of the major economies and has just surpassed Japan as the 4th in the world by GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity. But I imagine the World Bank is somehow Putin in disguise as well.
It's better to engage with reality than sacrifice Ukranians for your delusions.
No bias at all.
Bias to what? Is the source wrong? 63% in the eastern part want peace talks (52% in total) and they're not getting them, why is that?
A great mystery. Guess we should Putin some thought to that.
Bruh, the poll was conducted by gallup. Does Putin own Gallup too, or does he own reality itself or what?
Did you look at the "data" it says nowhere that I could find ANY demographics relating to the poll.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx
All of the data is there, they even provide downloadable spreadsheets with the distribution by region.
This data?
Your evidence is a screenshot of your own Excel spreadsheet?
because putins precondition for peacetalks is ukranian withdrawal from the donbass, which translates to any progress made by the ukranians since 2022.
So a minority of 27% is desperate enough to offer territorial concessions but I doubt even they are willing to give as much as Putin demands
Western stooge of Russia demands Ukraine surrender the lands taken by invasion.
Bruh are we at the point when saying "I agree with Ukrainian civilians in wishing the bloodshed would stop via diplomacy" gets gringos frothing at the mouth? What the fuck is wrong with y'all
it's that zelensky is being posed in the meme as the main obstacle to peace, rather than the invading russian army.
I'm starting to think those people are just sadists wishing to see as many Ukrainians and Russians dead as possible...
They don't even refute anything, if you say anything remotely critical of Ukraine/Zelensky, you are just declared Russian bot/propagandist and your opinion doesn't matter. Wow.
Fr. It's taken as a given that they don't give a fuck about the opinion of Ukrainians. Shit, if you're so against Putin, why not have your country go to war so you can put on the boots? Why do others have to die for what you believe in?
... Why do others have to die for what you believe in?
liberals are armchair generals with enough time to respond quickly to the bits of reality they don't like.
leftists have other shit to do to keep a roof over their heads so their response is always slower. i joined this instance because the community here delivers; albeit a day after liberals stop paying attention and moved onto the next thing.
Why do others have to die for what you believe in?
Why not?
I mean the only answer here is "because empathy", but Ukrainians are not part of their " tribe", so no empathy for us.. Murder as many of us as they can, and then write in the history books that it was Russia so that they can continue claiming they are the good ones :(