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[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think this describes 99% of incels

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

One might say it's their defining trait

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, that rings a bell.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It would be very nice if being conventionally unattractive also made a person attracted to other conventionally unattractive people.

I wonder what hurts more: the unfulfilled asymmetric entitlement shown in the comic or intellectual honesty of the "I wouldn't be attracted to me, so I shouldn't expect most other people to be attracted to me either" sort. Probably the honesty, since many people pick experiencing the entitlement.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I'm in camp #2, I think camp #1 would be worse, cuz you'd end up trying and failing and getting rejected. Can't be disappointed if you never have hope to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Overall I think the entitlement hurts more, especially over time, but it's a lot easier to blame external factors than it is to look inward and see where you can improve yourself.

There may be more initial hurt from being honest with yourself, but once you get past that initial hurt and begin working on yourself, you find things you love about yourself and don't need the external validation as much as you thought you did. Honesty it the first step on the journey of self-improvement and ultimately self-love. Once you love yourself it's easier for other people to see what's lovable about you.

Entitlement just makes you angry at other people and drives them away, leaving you alone with your anger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been in the honesty camp for the last decade, however I've come to accept that I'll never love myself. I still have my anger, but I focus it inward where it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

As long as you aren't blaming others for that anger.

Also go easier on yourself, I'm willing to bet you don't deserve the amount of anger you direct at yourself. I realize that probably doesn't mean a whole lot coming from someone who doesn't know you or your situation, but it's something to consider

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can’t have what I want, don’t want what I can have.

The world is truly against me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

"I would never join a club that would allow someone like me as a member."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, bit of a nit pick here but just cause she's also not conventionally pretty doesn't mean he can "have her".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's implied that she likes him, at least more than the other ladies

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Saying something encouraging to somebody is not the same as saying "I'm interested in you".

This is a distinction most incels don't really get.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've always found it super interesting that Disney made a kids' thing out of that particular book. Because that's a bleak fucking book full of nasty filthy disgusting terrible people doing nasty filthy disgusting terrible things. Someone went "you know the classic where a couple of city officials drool after a gypsy woman and violently rape her in a cathedral and then hang her in the street? And a grotesque monster rampages against them for it? Wouldn't the kids just love that one but as a musical and instead of hanging her they burn her at the stake?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

gypsy woman

Sixteen in the novel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Also, let's turn a womanizing thug into a fucking Disney prince, the kiddies will love it."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

More to the point, why hasn't Troma taken a stab at it yet?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

At least he doesn't say it out loud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bruh, don't do my boi Quasimodo like this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I think that the internet is the cause of this, and globalization. Porn addiction etc. All of those things are brand spanking new relative to our evolutionary timeline