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I strongly disagree with this decision and the reasoning behind it. Blahaj is, in my opinion, the best place for this community specifically because of the strong moderation and policies of Ada and other admins here.

Lemmy.world is also the worst instance I can think of outside of the big three tankie instances. It contributes further to the centralization of Lemmy as a whole (since 196 has been one of the most active communities on the entire platform). In my opinion, the .world crowd's liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

I'd have rather seen Blahaj defederate from .world than 196 move there, even if it meant less content and engagement. At least the cultural values of the community wouldn't have been compromised.

To be honest, I think a big part of the 196 identity is that it comes from blahaj. Maybe the move will prove me wrong, but I can't imagine the energy will be the same.

We joined this community because its on blahaj.zone.

We're not moving

I'm gonna be honest, my first response to reading this headline & image, as well as the small snippet of the body visible from my app's home page, was "huh, bit early for an April Fool's Day joke". It would have been surprising enough if the move has been anywhere, but LW is the last non-tankie instance I would have expected, given the modding/admin drama they've been through recently.

I'm guessing LW was chosen because there's a pre-existing (if inactive) community there already?

Neutral observation: World's userbase is incompatible with the attitudes and queer acceptance of nearly any community that originates from a place like Blahaj. Your comment sections will go to directly to shit. You will constantly be embattled by .world bigots. Sea-lioning and whataboutism will be common and things you never imagined would be controversial will be. Given the incoming administration I would stick to spaces carved out for the culture you want to see on a "r/196-like" board.

For the love of god, leave this community here and just create a new mod team instead. This community being on Blåhaj specifically is a big plus for a lot of us

Lame move. The .world instance has been getting worse for a long while. Why not go elsewhere if it's really that important? 196 is one of the most active communities I've seen so the de-federation issue doesn't sound like one.

We won't be moving to world with you. We like blahaj and we like 196 being on blahaj. If you don't want to be here, you should instead just hand over your mod positions to people who do.

A move that has been months in the making but only now is getting announced? Has it been announced previously and I missed it or something? I get the motivation for the move, but this feels like the kind of decision that the users of the 196 should have gotten more of a chance to at least give feedback on what other instance 196 should be migrating to.

u guys should mod a community on lemmy.world if they share ur values more but don't steal our community

I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.

The problem is that you're creating more work for yourself, even if you're as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you're hoping for, you'll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn't on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.

I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won't, but I know that many users here aren't like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.

It’s pretty clear what the community consensus here is.

You can leave, and start a new 196 community wherever you like. Leave this one as is, and people can choose to follow one, both or neither.

Locking it here is very hostile to the community and a categorically bad move. I hope the instance admins can step in, remove the mods and unlock the community.

I've seen a lot of talk about how this move changes the admins the community will be under, but very little about how this will change the randos that pass through. The mods keep saying this won't change anything, that the moderation will stay the same, etc, but the reason this community is the way it is is that there are a lot of locals that find it. When the new community shows up on l.w's local page, it will bring in a far different crowd. Their posts, comments, and up/down votes will change the community, and there's no amount of moderation that will fix that.

Mods, this is why people are mad you made this change without asking anyone. Many of us do not want an influx of .world users into this space because we know what kind of politics and biases they'll bring with them and that, even if you moderate the bigots, the normies will still likely overpower the queer voices this community is known for.

Well, shit… 196 was probably the core of my feed, and my instance doesn’t federate with .world.

I would like to propose a solution that I think can make everyone happy. Transfer ownership of Blahaj 196 to a new mod team and make World 196 the alternate community. If anyone wishes to follow the original mod team into world they would be able to, meanwhile blahaj 196 would follow the values of Blahaj. I personally volunteer to either be the head or a moderator here.

The combination of not involving the community in the decision, only providing a vague reason and locking the original community really rubs me the wrong way.

This move is going to make the community a lot less welcoming to queer folk, by virtue of being on .world alone. I don't know what rift between Ada and you let to that decision, but I think it's a big mistake. It feels especially bad for us members of this community not being involved in the decision making process at all, all the more if this has truly been "months in the making".

With that said: I strongly implore you to not lock down the community, and instead let a new mod team take over. Not having centralized decisions and power tripping mods is one of the big hopes I had for the fediverse, and this... feels really bad. It's not a bad thing to have several similar communities on different instances! Please don't destroy this one over personal grievances

agh idk dog... the comment sections of lemmy.world are a bit of a cesspool. I'll miss the pro-trans good vibes

That why doesn't really answer much. Are we making 196 a safe space for transphobia or something?

Do we really need more centralisation? .world is already too big.

I guess those ideological issues were the acceptance and safe space for queer people, but fuck us I guess. Don't worry, we won't hop on over to the shit show.

Maybe we can start a 197 like how 196 came from 195.

What a shitty fucking take from some power tripped mods.

I'm sorry, but lemmy.world was the worst possible decision for a place to relocate to. I wouldn't follow you there even if I could. If you really have to go with a big, liberal instance that will let you moderate however you want at least you should have gone with lemm.ee. They're not making lemmy monolithic, not as much of a troll magnet, and far more competent at what they do.

I have no idea why u thought people would be fine with any of this, this leaves 200% clear that u dont even know the community u moderate

I'm sorry but what the fuck are you on?

lemmy.world

Literally the worst instance for a decentralized platform (cuz they're already too big).

please be assured we have same mod team

No that doesn't assure me. Whichever mods signed off on this should be removed from any 196 community because you took rule too seriously and forgot about your community before posting

It's really obvious what this is about. And it's not a good look for you.

I want to add my voice to the others asking for tranfering to a new mod team. You don't have to kill the community, let people who want it on blahaj.zone keep using it. The worst that can happen is the quality of posts being lower.

:(

.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.

So I made a new community.

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Banner and icon will follow, I'm literally out running errands right now!

What rotten news.

If you want to move to some big reddit-like instance, then you move you and let the ones that what to meme in a safe space do it. As you've noticed, communities can't be moved to other instances. I would ask you to kindly take the hint.

imho you should simply start your far reaching 196 elsewhere and leave this one to be modded by someone else. Not everybody is fond of playing in traffic.

Bye then, I won't be following