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Huge if true: If you show people articles saying that Firefox is faster than Chrome, they'll believe it (www.theregister.com)

submitted 3 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I think Windows monopoly played a big part in IE dominance and Google search monopoly plays a big part in Chrome’s

Google's ability to promote Chrome on its search page

I am not sure the average Chrome user is feeling performance issues to the point where they’d want to switch away.

It would be curious to see a campaign where Firefox offers a version with all telemetry and pocket and Google search removed and creates an Apple style “Data Linked to You” Privacy visualisation comparing Firefox and Chrome. The Apple trend seems to be gaining steam.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Problem is Mozilla gets most of their money from using Google as default search engine, so they can't just remove that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

It won't take long until Firefox will have such a low market share that another open source browser project can take over their share of users. I am ready to switch to a better project which is not dependent on Google, that needs less funding and uses that money better.

Edit: This is me trying to see the good in the fact that Firefox market share is dying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

I think mozilla is really useful to google, obviously for monopoly reasons but here is a rather petty mundane example. Reading through a bunch of the TC39 minutes (W3C JS standards body), all of the major browsers including Moz have reps, and the Google ones tend to dominate the conversation and can tend to block proposals and generally be vocal about where the rubber meets the road. The google reps also seem to think they can speak for Mozilla saying things to the effect of I don’t think Moz will be on board with that, that won’t work for them. So they get more power behind the scenes through their patronage.

Incidentally, Microsoft uses Github votes the same way, except they outright own then instead of just controlling 98% of their funding.

In other words, Firefox might be around longer than looks reasonable from a distance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

In other words, Firefox might be around longer than looks reasonable from a distance.

Yeah but on the other hand: the people who like firefox like it for being not google, so they would switch to a different browser that's better in that regard, I believe

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] then keep using chrome spyware and win10 spyware is that good for you ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

wtf I am a FF user on linux...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

why you said: "It won’t take long until Firefox will have such a low market share that another open source browser project can take over their share of users."

"This is me trying to see the good in the fact that Firefox market share is dying"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

because Firefox market share is still declining and that sucks. But they don't seem to be able to turn it around, so maybe another project will.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Isn't the "elite" injecting € $ on chrome spyware ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

what are you talking about??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

do you think gov and other corps influenced chrome usage on past years without a reason ? check this out https://lemmy.ml/post/57086

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Who is the "elite" here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Dont open your eyes keep them closed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

lmao what are you, too chicken to tell me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

if you say so

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

evidently

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

The Goggle dependency really is a problem. If not for it, they could run campaigns like “Chrome sucks and here’s why” detailing all the dirty little tricks a browser can play. So maybe if they get cutoff some day we’ll see a browser street fight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

I would pay them on a regular basis if they'd remove Pocket, Google, etc. as soon as I log in with my Firefox account.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 years ago

I'd rather have Mozilla show real numbers and publicise those results than just pushing to make people believe Firefox is faster

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago

It is faster

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 years ago

I am pro open-source etc but someone at mozilla should have known that publishing these findings is a little bit of a self-own.

People don't want to be told that they don't know what's better...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Settings - Search Provider - Change to duckduckgo problem solve btw firefox does what many don't do respect for their users.

Also use about:config to tune up firefox https://privacytools.io/browsers/#about_config

Cheers !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

google pays them to make it the default search engine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

And untill the majority of Firefox users start sending money to Mozilla that's certainly not going to change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

or until they're going to stop paying millions to their ceo and other top positions and actually start paying their engineers...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Yes, Mozilla clearly could save money by not being located in California or paying their higher-ups such salaries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Use librewolf. it's preconfigured Firefox. it also stops most telemetry that Mozilla does.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

Chances are, whatever you show people, they'll believe it. Even if it comes from completely unknown sources. Fake news thrive thanks to this.

On topic: I love Firefox and advocate it wherever I can, for many reasons including speed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

I tried to find some android browser speed comparisons lately... a simple page speed load comparison between not just the marketed browsers, but the smaller ones too, is pretty hard to find.