Thank you for creating this community. I've long thought that the patriarchy and gendered norms harm everyone.
And that the hostile approach of some "feminist" and "men's rights" movements are only adding fuel to the fire.
this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2025
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Yup. Agreed. Emma Watson brought it to light when she pointed out how it harms babies and how they bond with their fathers in their early days, for example.
(Taking care of babies is for mothers, apparently.).
Happy to know I'm not the only one thinking this way!
Love to see this sort of approach to gender discrimination and sexism.
Different folks face very different types of issues but I think standing together and solidarity is the path forward
Exactly! And I think being part of united community helps better understand the circumstances of others, which ends up helping everyone.
Love it! I was recently thinking about the stuff a lot. Yesterday me and my wife were watching our first marvel movie together and she had sooooo much knowledge of the characters and universe. She said she was always so self conscious of that because she was always taught its a "guy thing" to love comic books and superheros. She said she knows i don't care about that but she was still worried i would think she is to "boyish". I said i love how much she knows and i want her to be herself and tell me all about it. Not whatever gender role she was told to act like. She grew up in a very conservative right wing family. She is a hardcore leftist nowadays and learning to stand up for herself and i couldn't be prouder of her.
This plays such a bigger role in our daily lives than we think and its important to talk about.
It's insane how much people are self-limiting with all those stereotypes. In my own relationship, I often help my loved one untangle a lot as well.
Sounds great! I'm onboard!
Happy to have you there! Feel free to post what you find interesting as well!
I’m going to assume OP doesn’t know what masculism is if they also state that they want to support feminism
What’s wrong with [email protected] ?
If you actually understand masculism, why not just call it “mens rights” instead of a faux neutral term?
Masculism is a movement against gender-based discrimination of men.
It may take many forms, and, unfortunately, some of them are clearly misogynistic and often appropriated by people who are into patriarchy. Similarly, some forms of radical feminism do get misandric.
Those are not the flavors of feminism and masculism I talk about, and those are clearly against the community rules.
Among those feminists and masculists that call for true gender equality, however, contradictions are unnecessary since the end goal is exactly the same.
- A community about men ([email protected] is about everyone)
- Openly focused on the feminist perspective, which, in my opinion, is limited because it only takes one angle.
Think of [email protected] as an attempt to form a wider group (men, women, and nonbinary) exploring gender inequality from different angles.
How is your community not a feminist community?
Edit: nvm, I looked at it and there’s some definite MRA influence
Feminism is driven primarily by, and meant primarily for, women. Men (and nonbinary people) can occasionally benefit from it, but they don't commonly have a say in the way it develops.
Antisexism encompasses all people, and everyone has an equal voice as long as it calls for equality. It makes no sense to break it down to smaller units if everyone's on the same page in that no one should be discriminated against. Men can be on the watch for cases of discrimination against women, and vice versa.
MRA (as in patriarchal men calling for male dominance and against feminism) are not welcome here. Coming from the men's perspective, MRA may occasionally raise very real issues of men, which can cause the intersection of topics between them and the community; the problem is, many if not most of the MRA folks don't want equality and also think of patriarchy as the magic pill to solve their issues, issues that are often caused by it in the first place.
You can look into men's issues from the men's perspective without encroaching on women's rights in any way, shape or form, and this is one part of the multidirectional message the community tries to send.
The false dichotomy of "feminism or patriarchy" commonly leaves the opinions and unique struggles of non-patriarchal men out of the picture, and nonbinary people are straight up invisible in this conversation.
Oh no the manosphere claimed another victim but this one thinks he’s woke
...or I don't care about fitting into 2 unhealthy Internet stereotypes, and neither should you. Touch grass.
Internet stereotypes? Not sure what you mean. All types of sexism predate the internet. You aren’t new
Luckily, shedding light on the unique issues men face is not sexism. It is antisexism. Same for women.
lol. If it quacks like a duck…
Congrats on being a feminist who refuses to admit you’re a feminist! It’s a centuries old club
To be honest, this is the first time, I heard that masculism is supposed to be more than slightly veiled anti-feminism. Maybe there are different roots for that expression? In Germany, the word is absolutely burned and every person calling themselvese masculinists are trash, as far I am aware of.
I think your idea about a community that wants to adress everybody by using the neutral term antisexism is a good idea, though.
Yeah, unfortunately, in the later years the term has been widely used by a lot of bigots to push something very different from the original idea.
Even Wikipedia now mentions both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism
I only mean it in the original sense, and am happy that quite a few people agree that this community should have its place.
That cultural context is super interesting. Here in the US I feel like I more often hear the shitty people of that type labeling themselves men's rights advocates
It makes sense that different places would have picked up different terms for that movement and as such would cary that unpleasant connotation, but I hadn't really thought about it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it gave me new things to think about :)
Well. I'm certainly happy we're finally fighting back against the Christo-fascism that is not on our doorstep, but actually in the house.
"GENDER!"
Oh. I thought we were actually talking about fighting back. I'll leave you to your flag waving and protests.