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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My biggest frustration is not that Trump won, it's that as best i can tell these things are not even penetrating into the infosphere of maga. They are not only gleefully celebrating what they think he's doing, they are also seemingly completely ignorant of what they surely must not realize he's doing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

"We're winning! We're winning! We're making those little liberal piggies squeal!"

That's all that matters. Policies are a fucking joke. They're not real. It's all vibes-based politicking.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

These Republicans are worse than locusts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Last I heard you could eat locust too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Locusts are at least honest when they come to destroy everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Oh I can feel the trickle!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I hate the language around the federal budget. First, how budget figures are reporting in 10 year intervals, when everything else is reported in 1 year intervals. So everything sounds 10 times bigger. When like only 5% of the population ever looks at the federal budget, this creates a TON of confusion.

Second, how reductions in tax (like to the rich) are reported as "giveaways". Taxes go in, not out. That's a reduction in revenue, not an expenditure or liability. You can say, "shift the tax burden even more onto the lower and middle classes". Then it's actually accurate. Getting fired from your job is not an expense, it's a loss of income. Same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It might be semantically incorrect but it is still a decrease in tax for the rich which given the current disparity in wealth frankly is barely a distinction at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It is factually incorrect. It is not giving them money, it is taking less money from them. That has different consequences under tax law and describing it that way also completely muddles people's understanding of how the budget works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You're just dealing with literal definition versus an inferred result, however you know this, you literally chose to deconstruct it in your original comment.

Laymans use imperfect allegories, that doesn't make them incorrect. If the message's intent is clear to imply that the only correct interpretation is the literal one is just bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not laymen, it's a journalist. Their job is to accurately describe the truth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

No it's their job to accurately communicate the effects to their readers, which they did.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago

This. It's not as if they are printing literal money to give them.

Many companies benefit from tax deductions which give incentives to hiring new employees, investing in particular geographic areas of developing a sensitive industry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

You will be paying for them in tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Think of it as redirecting the food assistance to leopards, feeding them poor maga faces.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago

The title of this is a misleading simplification. $4.5 tn is not "Tax Giveaway to the Rich". It's a maximum cap on total tax cuts that could be in this budget. It is likely to include renewal of 2017 income tax cuts and increased child tax credit - both of these were popular and not just "for rich".

They may also raise SALT cap which benefits higher income people from states with high property taxes. Living in one myself, I can tell you that you don't need a mansion in a top school district to pay much more than $10k in property taxes. So this one is not just for billionaires for sure, but maybe from upper middle class.

There are promises Trump made to eliminate income taxes on tips and social security, which are obviously not beneficial only to rich. But I heard it would cost a lot, especially SS one. Not sure if $4.5tn is enough.

Unfortunately, it looks like proposed spending cuts to Medicaid and food stamps are favored by GOP and may be easy to pass, but they don't cover tax cuts by a big margin. So they can hurt people in need, and still have to balloon national debt even more.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 week ago (37 children)

MAGA will blame this on Democrats.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Well, he promised tax breaks. If anyone had the illusion that this would benefit lower income brackets, then congratulations: you have officially become senile. Because it follows the same path he did with the last tax breaks: More money for the rich, less for the rest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Because it follows the same path he did with the last tax breaks: More money for the rich, less for the rest.

Not a single maga ever believed me when I told them that, and they won't believe it now either.

Their heads are so far up Trump's ass they know what he has for dinner.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (17 children)

This infuriates me more than anything else, but the Republicans were very clear on their intentions and were elected democratically.

It sucks that we don't have a legit opposition party that actually cares about the poor and working class.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (19 children)

America will get what they voted for. Fucked.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have no sympathy for anyone who ever voted Trump, but the point has to be made that until voting is mandatory and they actually hold genuine primaries that allow voters to have a say, it's taking things too far to blame every American for this outcome. The last few presidential elections have been laughably thin pretenses of democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago

Who could have possibly foreseen this hilariously predictable outcome?!

[–] Bublboi 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America had a class war. And Americans lost.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck did people think would happen to all the cost savings that doge is supposedly doing? You think that money was just going to sit in government bank accounts or something?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

"Well the 60yr old man that blew his body out working hard jobs to raise his family that are now unable to buy homes despite graduating college with tech degrees, can just rejoin the work force with his withering body and broken psyche." -Evil probably

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