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Every time I post criticism of the instance an admin goes nuclear.

https://lemmy.ca/post/26593917

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1125134

https://lemmy.ca/comment/14667151

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1125134/1730468

https://lemmy.ca/post/21312702/9225643

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1095942/1713872

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1033788/1695910

Elect: to select by vote for an office, position, or membership. by Merriam Dictionary

I thought voting "doesn't work?" Are you telling his logic isn't even consistent by his own standards.

This is the same instance sheltering the well-known troll Universal Monk.

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1129019

The tankies communities quickly collapse when challenged first Hexbear now Vegantheoryclub. It's almost as if their foundation is weak.

I have screenshotted that last part with much pleasure. Have a good life buddy!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Wait, are you actually Beaver on an alt? Because if so, it is very uncool to secretly ban people just for downvoting vegan comments. And using alts to dodge the consequences of your actions or do vote manipulation sucks too. And also in the future please think about how it reflects on the community when doing things like banning admins, even when they are being a dipshit. At least give a good faith effort to talk it out. Although honestly that led to some nice reform for the instance so I guess I won't hold that against you.

Here's some of the context for anyone else, although it's brief about the initial drama on the vegan cat food thread. https://lemmy.world/post/19731457

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To be fair to this instance, hosting universalmonk seems to be common. See an exerpt of my blocklist

Also, FuckTankies

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The one thing that's been a much worse experience on Lemmy than Reddit or other similar social media is being Vegan, it fucking sucks here. And the anti-vegan bullshit is everywhere on Lemmy, simply mentioning it often feels like you've committed a war crime based on the replies.

To everyone who is part of that: you are shitty people who need to grow the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

My first reaction was tldr

But i did read it...im not sure this is saying what you think it does. To me it sounds like you have multiple accounts and are cyber stalking this user and now making an info dump when they are leaving lemmy?

Like everyone needs a hobby but you've picked a weird one.

Can't believe i just wasted my time reading someone's vendetta shitpost

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"using tanks to suppress Hungarian fascists makes me a tankie???"

Yes, supporting using tanks to suppress Hungarian leftist revolutionaries, the literal event which spawned the term tankie, makes a person a tankie.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they were saying they wanted to use tanks to suppress Hungarian fascists. They're saying that they're being accused of wanting to suppress Hungarian fascists (?), just because what they actually said was that they don't like America.

I can't really make head or tail of the whole thing. Just wanted to point out that I think you might have misread that one part.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, that interpretation makes sense. Repeating the canard about Hungarian revolutionaries being fascists, I think, made me interpret it in a less generous light.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah, on the overall judgement, I think I agree with you still. I read some of the links. They're off their rocker. I was trying to see about the vote-rigging thing, but I stopped caring before I got to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

"Ironic"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

This fits for a [email protected] like the tankie triad does

[–] Sunshine 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Funny how he calls the Hungary protestsers "fascists" and says they were suppressed completely leaving out the fact they were killed by tanks and troops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956

This is the same guy who claims the "taiwanese want to reunify with China and that Ukraine should roll over and let Russia have all the land"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think there are malicious people on Lemmy who have learned to exploit tribal boundaries to get people on their side. People claiming to be vegan, or anarchist, or queer are three giant glaring examples of this. Once you've made the claim, you can come out of the gate with whatever bad-faith gibberish serves the purpose you're trying to accomplish, secure in the knowledge that a sizable amount of the people in that same tribe will go to bat for you because you're in the club.

(Also people claiming to be communist.)

I'm not saying that anyone professing to those things is a fake. Most people in all are clearly are being honest about it. I'm just saying that, even if someone's in your tribe, you need to look at what they're actually saying, and that it's okay not to support them even if they are wearing being-on-your-tribe on their sleeve to tempt you into being a good member of the tribe and backing them up on whatever action or belief they are currently about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Tribalism is the stupidest thing ever. I remember seeing posts about Reddit meetups, advertising something by saying "support them, they're a redditor," etc, like using a given social media site somehow implied trust. It doesn't.

The same is true for political affiliations, gym memberships, or sports team preferences. Someone liking the same thing as you doesn't make them "better" than someone else, it just gives you something to talk about.

Yet look at how many people cite influencers, famous athletes, or politicians for things they have no expertise in. It's dumb. Why don't people think for themselves?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Honestly I don't care if someone is a communist. I think it way more important to put critical thought into your beliefs. Don't be a follower or to much of a idealist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Aren’t you the person who freaked out awhile ago about horses being slaves or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I'm going to get myself a cup of tea

Reason: unhinged person

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

another day and another post by sunshine beaver that is absolute pick-me behaviour

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

While I can't say I know Sunshine personally I do see them comment and post around Lemmy. I don't agree with her all the time but I respect her as a person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can respect her as a person and still think she's off her rocker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I haven't seen anything that would suggest she is off her rocker. Flawed? Quite possibly. However I think we are all mostly human.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What in the world is a Mormon Satanist?

Other than that TL:DR...

[–] remotelove 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who knows. You probably want to start preemptively blocking UM's accounts now though. He has about 20 or so and several alts so it will take a bit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would I preemptively block him. He hasn't done anything to me

[–] remotelove 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then don't. The similarity of your account is quite remarkable though, so y'all would probably get along quite well.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The similarity of your account is quite remarkable though, so y’all would probably get along quite well.

I looked at his account. I don't see any similarity at all other than he doesn't feel that every post in communites has to be 100 percent pro-democrat.

He likes other points of view. I do agree with him on that. But that's anyone who doesn't worship the dem party like Lemmy does.

Do you all think that every person that posts a conservative point of view is Universal Monk? Cuz you all act like that. lmao

[–] remotelove 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Accounts. There are a few to pick from and looking at one is not the entire picture.

Post volume combined with post type is part of the similarity. The intent of your posts also appears the same: It's not about political issues and more about getting attention. After a time, downvotes become a badge of honor, of sorts.

You chose to comment here, and you seem to know what the results would be. You were also able to determine that Lemmy was mostly non-right and you picked a username that was likey to ruffle some feathers at first glance. If you just blindly joined Lemmy without reading any posts, I would be very surprised. (Was your first thought, "OMG! Lefties and die-hard Commies! I'll feel right at home!"? No. I doubt that.)

So, political association isn't my first concern. It's the intent of your posts. It's highly unlikely that you actually read any of the articles you post but pick them based on title alone. At a minimum, you are just a propagandist and in that regard, exactly the same as UM. If you actually read that much bullshit, you rely way too much on media sources for what your opinions should be at the moment.

I can only see one of your +70 article posts from when you created your account due to how I block communities. So, you either are are really into furry porn, or you just make political posts. (TBH, the furry community is much more self-aware than your average political spammer.) It's not really much of a stretch to understand what the majority of your posts are, even though I did catch a few of them when you created your account.

So, I don't really generalize you as conservative. I just put you in the same category as politically toxic, regardless of your political party. I can even make some really good guesses as to how you will reply, if you even choose to reply.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, you either are are really into furry porn, or you just make political posts.

What?!

[–] remotelove 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Read previous sentence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still don't get it. What does anything in this thread have to do with furry porn?!

[–] remotelove 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Besides politics, it seems that is a larger block category for me. (The earlier days of Lemmy were a bit different.) So, me not seeing nearly all of your posts on your profile means your posts fall in one of those two categories. I thought it was funny, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But I haven't posted to any Furry communities, so I still don't get what you are trying to say by bringing furries into it.

And ya know, you can just go ahead and block my name then you won't see ANY of my posts. See how easy that is? :)

[–] remotelove 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reading comprehension isn't on your list of strengths, is it? Nevermind then. There were better points to focus on instead of trying to understand how I can validate a persons posting content without even seeing it.

But yeah, that is solid advice to implement blocks of people and some communities. It's even better advice when it can be done ahead of time. Now, go all the way to the top of this conversation and see how it's gone full circle, if you want.

It does make me wonder how vulnerable you are to logical fallacies. That would explain your attraction to far-right media as a source of truth, TBH.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't care. Feel free to block me. Or keep crying. I don't care. Because I'll keep posting to Lemmy. :)

[–] remotelove 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am not crying, and you asked questions that I answered? I never said to stop posting on Lemmy?

If you don't want answers, don't ask questions.

That last post was nonsensical, at best.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you brought up the nonsensical stuff about furries. I still have no idea what you are talking about or even why you are talking about it.

[–] remotelove 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You simply do not understand context, and I haven't been talking about it. It's your fixation now, it seems.

Reading comprehension - the ability to process and understand the meaning of written text

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not my fault you aren't clear when you write something.

[–] remotelove 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If anything is my fault, it's that I didn't use smaller words. Noted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Still doesn't matter though. Nothing you said makes me change my mind. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

None of these really prove they’re a tankie though. Most of these are saying they’re not. Seems dubious.