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The final version of the agreement, dated February 24 and seen by the FT, would establish a fund into which Ukraine would contribute 50 per cent of proceeds from the “future monetisation” of state-owned mineral resources, including oil and gas, and associated logistics. The fund would invest in projects in Ukraine.

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However, the agreement omits any reference to US security guarantees which Kyiv had originally insisted on in return for agreeing to the deal. It also leaves crucial questions such as the size of the US stake in the fund and the terms of “joint ownership” deals to be hashed out in follow-up agreements.

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Ukrainian officials added that the deal was just a “framework agreement” and that no revenues would change hands until the fund was in place, allowing them time to iron out any potential disagreements. Among the outstanding issues is to agree the jurisdiction of the agreement.

Mirror: https://archive.is/2025.02.25-183836/https://www.ft.com/content/1890d104-1395-4393-a71d-d299aed448e6

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This seems like a terrible deal for Ukraine. No guarantees and only obligations, not that you could trust anything Trump promises anyways.

But if it comes to it, then it is also a huge blunder by the EU imo. At this point it seems pretty clear to me that if Ukraine wants to achieve security and prosperity in the longterm, then it'll only happen through integration with the EU. In that process Europe will have to bear most of the load, which however could also be a great opportunity. Allowing the US to swoop in like that and secure profits will make everything to come much harder.

Imo the EU would have plenty to offer aswell or could even strongarm Ukraine into choosing their offer (although this would be way less preferable), if it were to actually act according to its size. Anything from finally ramping up military orders by an order of magnitude and building capacities that can actually make use of the economies of scale, finally releasing frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, or even extending air defenses over part of Ukraine to lessen their burden.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Ukraine set to sign a piece of paper that outlines the concept of a deal, maybe, in the future", sounds like a whole bunch of nothing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It kind of is but it’s also something in writing. Trump & co are a product of an era where the show is more important than everything else. What happened here is about as far as they did with Russia, just set up some framework for future talks. Pretending to know meaning and intention behind this kind of theatre is futile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They probably just did it to stroke his ego. He can now say he made a great deal, and Ukraine is hoping that Trump won't be so hostile anymore. The US government is a real clown show.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just pull a Trump and don't honor your end of the deal

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yeah, I agree. This is the correct answer.

Didn't know what to make of this whole deal today. Trump cancels or retreats unilateral from agreements, and changes reality as it suites him. His signature on a deal means just as much as the values he holds himself accountable to: zero, zilch, nothing, nada.

Trump is playing a game, and the world is just playing along.. In the end nobody can take him serious, but he's still a very dangerous person.

*reading comments, guess most think in a similar way.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

The deal doesn’t really do anything. They are more giving Trump bragging rights by saying he “made a deal” hoping he will be more favourable towards Ukraine in return.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

What does Ukraine get from the deal? This sounds very vague

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

"agrees" 😞🔫

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is definitely a deal you would not make...

If you sincerely thought Zelenskiy was a huckster