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Summary

DOGE released an updated "wall of receipts" claiming $65 billion in savings, but its itemized total dropped from $16.6 billion to $9.6 billion.

Errors persist, including duplicate listings and inflated figures. Some contracts were counted multiple times, while others misreported savings.

Critics argue DOGE lacks documentation for most claimed cuts. The discrepancies raise transparency concerns as job losses mount from canceled contracts.

DOGE's figures remain under scrutiny, with media and experts questioning its accounting practices.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'd like to see a Wall of Waste now, please. Something that shows all the increase expenditures due to Musk's idiotic thrashing around. It should include things like expenses from trying to track down and rehire people they shouldn't have fired and effective losses from contracts that they cancelled that were already paid in full which, since they were canceled, they will now never be completed by the contractor.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really wondering when they start blatantly wasting money renegotiating those already paid in full contracts that were cancelled to give out more money to people who’ve donated to them for jobs they were already paid to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

My wage would have gone to no less than 10k and hour to return to the critical job they fired me from on top of the severance I was owed. It would be expensive to get me back, and very public.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The irony of wanting to be "bean counters" to trim corruption and waste in our government, and then have nobody on staff that can audit/track/compute anything. And I know their real goal is just to hamstring the government so nobody is left to prevent them taking everything, and/or selling it off to someone like Putin or Netanyahu. It is just the weirdest coup I think the world has ever seen.

Edit - oh autocorrect (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The list also needs to include and track the amount of money spent on lawsuits from fired employees and contractors/departments/states whose contracts were cancelled.

This is finances 101 from Wall Street. Show short term cost reduction which makes the shareholders giddy despite the reductions causing long term and secondary losses. And just like the institutional shareholders, the orange and nazi buffoons and their lackeys are in cahoots lining their pockets through self interest dealings while the public will be covering the eventual losses through their taxes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Excellent point.

[–] Franklin 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

discrepancies is an incredibly charitable interpretation of events.

I'd prefer to call it lies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Rich white people possibly lying in our faces, no way!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Bureaucracy, when properly implemented, can be quite efficient. They don’t want to admit that to undo bureaucracy, they need more bureaucracy, so these doofuses are taking the MBA approach and showing us how bad a 3rd party tech bro audit actually is.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If this is the quality of work they present simply summarizing their actions, these people should be nowhere near any of our governmental systems at all. Utterly incompetent jackasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not incompetent, they're malicious. They're intentionally trying to fuck the country over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I think that ship has sailed.
The country has been quite comprehensively fucked over at this point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

This is why Elon can't create a successful accounting firm

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The bottom line on this is they could make it all up and we wouldn’t know the difference. There’s no real way to fact check this info.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I mean for me personally yeah but it definitely seems like people/organizations are finding a way to fact check the crap out of this. The top five biggest contracts on their previous iteration of this have all been removed or heavily revised because they were called out for being inaccurate and they capitulated. I've already seen reports showing the same thing with a lot of the new ones.

It seems like their new strategy is just to not list the biggest savers and just talk about it because the wall of receipts no longer comes close to the value saved they were claiming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The buck doesn't start and stop inside the treasury. Most of this money was going somewhere, and people can fact check things like the actual terms of government contracts, past expenditures, congressional budgets, etc.

The real problem - as is always the case in this Age of Disinformation - is that the process of verifying facts takes time, while the process of producing lies is instant and constant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Post-truth world. A lie goes around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. People have been killed because of a whatsapp or telegram message gone viral.

We should have recognized this shit for what it was as soon as viral became a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They love telling us 2+2=5. Some of us love accepting that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

2+2 =65 billion in this case apparently. See, if you round 2 to 63 billion and then mistake the other 2 for 2 billion, black trans migrants are the reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Looks like Trump licking Elon's toes made him laugh and he fat-fingered some numbers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It would be pretty funny if, in the end, we just have a report stating that the state is actually pretty efficient.