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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In 2025, a sitting US president openly defying the courts is considered “low-key.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It's low key in the sense that Trump seems to have been prepared to disobey the order, but it never took effect. The order was "pay people what you owe them by Wednesday at 11:59pm," and the Trump admin got an order from the Supreme Court pausing that requirement until further notice.

What's notable is that Trump's lawyer said "yes we know we have to comply with court orders but this one is literally impossible to comply with in time," which is the type of position that makes a token gesture towards complying, while also showing that they weren't going to comply in time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"Low-key" as in he's found a relatively low-key way to defy a judge's order. Any kind of defying a judge's order is of course a very dramatic action.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Low key? There is no Low Key defying a court order. There’s only right out CONTEMPT, Trump should be in jail? Why should be alone be above the law?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That protects Trump, not the people following illegal orders. At least office immunity doesn't extend to the entire executive anywhere else in the world as far as I know.

Immunity for official acts is supposed to prevent the judges from doing a coup by arresting elected politicians, not to give the executive powers to ignore the other branches.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Pardons, selective lack of prosecution, weak sentencing, failure to convict.

Next?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Official act would be complying with the Judge…but potatoe, patatoe…or whatever.

And yes, I spelled potatoe wrong both times on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

SCOTUS ruled that a president cannot be criminally charged for any "official acts" taken while in office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"when the president does it, it isn't illegal"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

"They just let you do it"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did that ruling not also leave it up to the courts to determine what constitutes an official act?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

So that it can go up to SCOTUS again, yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Contempt is a civil charge no? So can't they still throw him in a cell?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

There are both civil and criminal contempt. Doesn't matter though, since then we get back to "official acts," which would end up at SCOTUS, who would just wave it off no matter what it was about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you misspell it the third time on purpose?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Just asking because you only specified the first two. Thanks for clarifying.

[–] kent_eh 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He should have been jailed for contempt on many occasions over the last 3-4 years, but somehow he seems to be immune to the normal rules, even when he isn't the sitting president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

I agree with this if anybody would less than $35,000 per year decided to disregarded judge over a parking ticket they would’ve gotten a harsher punishment. Then Trump got in all of his legal woes combined. 

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Low-key defiance? Call it what it is: a power grab wrapped in procedural foot-dragging.

😾😾

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, thanks to the supreme court, it's all legal, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Only if it's a power of the executive branch defined in the constitution. The SC interprets this, and they've already sided against him a few times.

They're power hungry traitors, and power hungry traitors don't take kindly to people trying to undermine their power.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Modern Media:

"How about we don't make a big fuss or devote too much time to this, instead let's report it like a niche rap album that everyone's sleeping on".

"Lowkey Trump's high crimes and treason is the best album y'all been sleeping on."

DO YOUR JOB MEDIA! The reason things aren't getting news coverage is because you're choosing not to make them an issue! You're supposed to be BROADCASTING HIS WRONG DOINGS, AND PUSHING SHAME ON REPUBLICANS ENABLING HIM.

They're so damn complicit in minimizing his crimes. They're why his supporters don't know jack shit. What responsible media outlet refers to a President defying the law as a "low key" event??? It's insane!!!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess the definition for low key has lost all meaning.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Low-key” is to Gen Z as “literally” is to Millennials. It doesn’t actually convey meaning, it’s a signifier that the person speaking uses a specific generational dialect. It’s a word you throw in that sounds like it makes what you’re saying more meaningful, but really just makes it sound infuriating to anyone outside your linguistic norms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

That's why I stopped saying it, low key.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine 'President low key selling nuclear secrets to Iran'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"President low key shooting someone in the face on 5th Avenue"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Talking Points Memo isn't really an appropriate source for unbiased news...

As much as I agree with a lot of what they say.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How so? They obviously have an editorial line but they never make any factual claims that aren't true.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The fact that it's editorial. I mean, bias doesn't automatically mean bad information. I'm only saying that this is a news community and TPM would be more appropriate in a politics community.

But whatever. You do you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

This is a news piece not an editorial. "Editorial line" means they have a publicly shared opinion on what's happening, not that they're not doing hard news.

[–] Nemean_lion 1 points 1 day ago

Why would a dick tator obey a judges ruling? That's why he is firing all the lawyers.