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A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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For some reason I'm feeling so Amish... Seems like they were so right with technology risks :-)
Um, no.
"So don't make us torture you for encryption keys got it?"
It's not my responsibility to make the FBI's job (or any cop's job) easier.
Also, folks should be using 3rd party open-source encryption, like VeraCrypt and a password manager that encrypts the database, like Keepass. Don't ever expect governments and corporations to respect your privacy.
There is no 'lawful access' without a warrant or my permission. there aren't laws saying padlocks need to support a government master key, and encryption is just a digital lock.
With a pad lock they do have a key though. Bolt cutters.
Bolt cutters are not a key, they are a method of bypassing the lock. they still need a warrant to do that, which is the point.
they still need a warrant to do that
Lol...
In fascism, if you have the biggest gun, you do what you want. And Trump has the biggest "gun"
I'm talking about legally, and as much as I don't like trump we are not in a fascist country (yet).
What do you think the line is? When will it cross over and become acceptable to call it "fascism"? Because we've embodied Eco's 14 features of Ur-Fascism for like 20 years. We now have a de facto dictator who is using that framework to do explicitly fascist things... Where is the line?
The laws don't exist though because they're so easily circumvented. If you AES256 encrypt something today, there's an extremely lonely chance they can't crack it. For years.
With a padlock they can just pull out the cutters and they're done.
I'm just referring to your point on why there are no laws against padlocks in this context.
fair enough, padlock was the wrong type of lock for the analogy. how about a vault door? sure that may not be as common, but you don't have to support a government master key for those either.
Same thing goes for vaults, or all physical locks. It may take a little longer than a padlock but nothing comparable to the amount of time it would take to brute force good encryption. We’re talking maybe a couple of hours or days for a vault vs. millions of years.
Thanks for your interest, but I'll have to pass.
So get a warrant.
Well too bad.
I want a pony
any 'lawful' access that's baked-in will also be used and exploited 'unlawfully'.
They understand this 100%
And they don't give a shit 100%
It's the entire fucking point.
fbi want direct access to encrypted data while simultaneously also all data to be encrypted in order to be protected from china?
do explain how this is all going to work because it's extremely confusing.
The explanation is that they will just use this shit to target whomever they please regardless of reason. This is how fascism works.
It is mean to be confusing. Stop trying to rationalize it, you're wasting energy.
I warn FBI. Fuck you.