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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Clickbaiters are worse than Putin. Disgusting creatures.

Saving you a click:

SpaceX believes that vibrations caused a failure of a fuel line in the aft section of the upper stage (i.e., Starship, not its Super Heavy booster), leading to a fuel leak.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s not very typical. I’d like to make that point.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You mean, for the shaking to cause an explosion? #tffo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well there are a lot of these Starships exploding all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that Elon has enough humility to feel embarrassed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

I was hoping the answer was "because musk wasn't inside" and the next one he needed to be in, but sure, it's built like a cyber truck is pretty embarrassing also

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh wow, absolutely embarrassing! Even a 5 year old would know to check for vibrations in the fuel lines 🤦

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

But also, fuel leaks are really common with rockets, and we know how to prevent them from happening. The fuels rockets use can escape through the tiniest of faults, and the complex fuel systems they use have numerous potential points of failure. As such, it is standard practice to find these potential leaks with intensive pre-flight checks to identify and solve these issues before they escalate into a catastrophe.

It's pretty standard practice apparently, it IS embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

standard practice to find these potential leaks with intensive pre-flight checks to identify and solve these issues before they escalate into a catastrophe.

Except these particular leaks are due to vibration modes (on the newly designed vacuum jacketed fuel lines) that seem to be only present at high g's towards the end of the burn.

After the first ship to use these new lines blew up, SpaceX made some changes and conducted a minute-long test firing on the ground of the second ship. A minute of the rocket going through various thrust levels on the ground is plenty of time to pick up issues if it was going to be visible on the ground.

Presumably it looked ok, so they launched it, and the second one blew up. They probably added more sensors on those lines, because they seem to be pretty sure that vibration modes are the issue on those lines now.

Yes, you could model this, and no doubt they did to some extent, but nothing beats testing in real life unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

A minute long test sounds awfully short for something that will cost millions if it fails.

Testing in real life when failure is so expensive is less than ideal, any controlled closed environment is better if it means you avoid failure. The very next paragraph from the one I quoted mentions how another rocket spent weeks in testing this specific matter and was delayed because they found the issue.

I'm paraphrasing what i read some NASA dude said about spaceX, but basically, if they failed as much as spaceX did they would be out of their jobs yesterday. Also, you know who takes the cost of these failures right? It's the US government through all the expensive spaceX contracts and tax breaks they sign. Each blown rocket makes the contract renewal more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not rocket scie- oh, nvm

[–] Albbi 7 points 1 day ago

Well it isn't brain surgery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Oh my god, how embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Something something Musk?