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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

there are more teslas than there are pintos?

That seems like a safe bet to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Yep, I can't use this statistic for anything if it can't compare to totals. I'm assuming that teslas, as a whole brand, outnumbers ford pinto, a single model, by at least 10x.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Went to check the numbers and this site says the total number of Tesla deaths is higher(although not specifically from fires)

www.tesladeaths.com

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

I think the takeaway from that site is that the self driving deaths really aren't that far behind the deaths from Tesla fires.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't doubt that model Ys catch fire sometimes but the pic on the right looks like AI to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that fire would be coming from the front storage space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Looks like there's fire in the back too but the smoke is only coming from the side.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago

Later studies found that pintos were not particularly more likely to explode than other cars of the same form factor from that era. Turns out, plenty of other manufacturers cut costs by placing the fuel tanks in the rear bumper. And either way there's plenty of other things you should be more concerned about in deathtraps from that era, such as the steering column impaling you if the front of your car collides with anything, or the roof caving in if your car is ever upside-down.

What did Ford in was the Pinto Memo. Evil corpo pro-tip: Doing clownishly evil napkin math on the relative costs of lawsuits vs a cheap fix is fine, just don't be so dumb as to write it down where a hungry journalist might find it.

Anyway are teslas better or worse than the pinto or comparable modern cars? Who fucking cares, if people actually cared about car safety they would all be lobbying to ban cars within cities and Tesla "F"SD would be illegal everywhere. Anyway it seems that the Swasticar branding is doing more damage to Tesla's reputation than any amount of ludicrous safety and manufacturing issues ever did.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Because the percentages are less than the qty. The denominator is larger and the percentage is technically lower.

Idk I'm just talking out my ass but it sounds like it could math.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 hours ago

Quick eyeball of Tesla figures shows about 5mil sold over all models. Ford Pinto sold about 3mil. So the percentages are pretty close with Tesla deaths nearly quadruple Pinto deaths. And the truck hasn't been out long so who know how many that will kill in accidents given its construction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It is this. Everyone seems to have forgotten the Ford Exploder and all the rollover accidents well above the industry average as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla vehicle owner detected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but not for much longer. I've had my Model 3 for 7 years, well before Elon went full public Nazi, and when there were almost no similar alternatives for less than $80k.

Just Blbeing anti-Tesla just because it's the thing you do now is stupid. Facts are facts. Fascists aren't the only ones that like to ignore inconvenient facts.

Acting like the hundreds of thousands of existing Tesla owners are the same as people currently buying just makes you look like a dipshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Acting like the hundreds of thousands of existing Tesla owners are the same as people currently buying just makes you look like a dipshit.

You sound a bit defensive here.

I wasn't suggesting anything beyond the strong coping signal I saw with you defending the safety of a vehicle in the face of data.

You make it sound like I called you a musk fanboi so if we want to talk about things people do to make themselves look like dipshits, your post is a top contender.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 hours ago

You make it sound like I called you a musk fanboi

That's exactly how your previous sentence came across, especially given the anti-Tesla sentiment. You can't honestly be trying to claim otherwise while being in the comment section of social media like Lemmy talking about Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If only that was true, but it isn’t. They’re about even, and even if they where behind on %, it should have been a pretty big case as we’re supposed to have learned and be more vigilant

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

If we had learned, we wouldn't be where we are.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

we’re supposed to have learned and be more vigilant

There is a regular ICE car fire every 3 minutes in the US, even after the changes made in vehicle design. But no one likes to talk about that fact. It's normal and you don't get to feel superior on the internet for making a snarky reply making fun of a billionaire who doesn't know you exist or care about what you think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Yes! Musk makes these cars. As the great engineer he is he hand built the original tesla using old tools he inherited from his father. I get to feel as superior as i want. The rules set out for plebs like you dont work on me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

She's a 21st century pinto, oh yeah!

A 21st century pinto, oh yeah!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno, I've heard a lot of jokes about Teslas exploding

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

They sure do seem to have a tendency to spontaneously combust.