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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I actually looked into that property once; there was no way it was going to happen for a number of reasons. I ended up buying a house in much better condition in another area.

I really need to do a video about the topic or something. There are many, many landmines with stuff like this. For a very TL;DR and assuming every single other thing is perfect: owning a home does not give you the right to spend any extra time in Japan nor grant a visa; you are on the hook for taxes, fees, septic maintenance (though the above property may have been a pit toilet; I don't remember), and other bills which will have to be paid from a Japanese bank account. There are also certain neighborhood association obligations, property maintenance, fire control, etc.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Essentially, there's usually good reason it was abandoned.

Additionally, houses in Japan aren't really built to last. Properties like these are usually bulldozed and rebuit when purchased.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Essentially, there’s usually good reason it was abandoned.

I knew it...

Ghosts

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Basically.

Grandma died and nobody wants to live in a 50 year old house in the middle of nowhere.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I watched a video from an American guy who did this. But he already had residence, and made it very clear that if you don't have residence, doing something like this would be a waste of time and money. He bought a massive junker of a house and it took him like 2 years and a bunch of help to make it livable. Still a good video, and still a cool idea, assuming you have certain ducks already lined up. Definitely not something to do on a whim.

I looked at doing something like this in quite a few countries, and skipped on Japan pretty quickly. Happy with my decision though.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm sure you could find a cheap condemned shit hole in your nearest rural area too. That doesn't mean that it's a good deal.

It's so cheap because the current owner doesn't want to spend the money on demolishing the structure before selling vacant land. And if it is still available it is because no developer has looked at it and thought that they could make money on the flip.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tons of places like that in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsyltucky, and all over the Midwest US. My girlfriend was scrolling through them talking about selling her house and buying one of those places on a big plot of land and thank fucking Jeebus I talked her out of it. I was like "babe, have you never seen the cinematic masterpiece 'The Money Pit' with Tom Hanks?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Two weeks...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Can confirm.

There's properties about 2 hours drive from where I am in Western Australia that are unsellable.

There would've been 100 people living in a community there in the past but now it's just a few old people waiting to die.

When someone does die the houses just end up being abandoned because you can't even get an agent to drive out there and put up a for sale sign.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The interesting part about a bunch of the homes in more rural Japan is that they're not actually condemned or shit holes. They're old and would definitely need some love and attention but their population hasn't been at replacement levels for a long time and people would rather live in a big city where they have access to all of the things so slowly and steadily the outer Fringe population areas in Japan have ben getting more and more empty leaving perfectly good houses to sit vacant for years. That's not to say that there aren't shit holes that aren't worth the time it takes to go see them but a large portion of them are actually quite nice.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That place is abandoned likely because the farmer who lived there died or went into a senior care facility. There are houses like this one all over the world in rural areas and I can guarantee two things: poor infrastructure and septic tanks. The reason it's cheap is because no developer wants an undeveloped lot.

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[–] [email protected] 210 points 1 day ago (3 children)
  • It's in bumfuck nowhere
  • I don't speak Japanese
  • Building it up to a modern living standard will be expensive
  • I'd have to move to Japan

Unsorted list of reasons why not from the top of my head

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think those first 2 cancel each other out.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Still need to be ble to do the paperwork and go get groceries though. So I doubt it cancels out.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It’s not that bad

Looking on maps it’s in a rural area but not that rural. The house is situated on the outskirts of a town, basically

Local middle schools website says they had 185 students in 2020, that’s pretty good for rural Japan

About a 30m walk from the town/school. Train station there, bunch of cafes, konbini.

It’s not going to be living in Tokyo obviously but there are rural areas in Japan that are far worse, where the school is 7 kids that all share a classroom even though they’re mixed grade 2-9 because the district has 1 teacher

Bigger reason for me: that house is decrepit and Japan experiences more natural disasters than pretty much any other country. Like I’m not living in a crap shack when the next earthquake, typhoon, or tsunami inevitably hits

The language isn’t that hard though. プラス、それからもっと漫画を読めるよ。

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (23 children)

The language isn’t that hard though

Gonna go ahead and press X to doubt on that. Japanese is consistently ranked among the hardest languages to learn for English speakers, alongside Mandarin and Arabic.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (12 children)

There are way more complexities than meet the eye here.

Not the least of which: just buying property doesn't give you a way to extend a visa beyond the normal tourist period (usually 90 days per 6-month period). Japan ultimately is still an isolationist country, and it shows the most in its immigration policies.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I'd have to be near retirement age while still nimble enough to renovate it and hope my pension and savings would be enough to cover the costs.

Even then, it would be difficult to navigate renovations in that environment where you don't speak the language, have no idea how their houses are supposed to be built, waste disposal and the myriad of other issues that will surely arise.

Getting a job is going to be a bitch - thus the retirement age requirement.
Getting citizenship is going to be an even bigger a bitch.
I'd be an outcast cause of my skin color and inability to communicate.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sure, it looks cheap. It's cheap for a reason. Buying abandoned property in a remote place is often the most expensive way to find out why.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Japanese houses in particular are basically a consumable. They are designed for a very short lifetime compared to pretty much any other developed country.

The average wooden house there lasts 21 years.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because Japan can be extremely xenophobic.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

going to nightclubs as a foreigner in japan: everyone loves you and wants to talk to you

getting a job (other than teaching english to kids) as a foreigner in japan: good luck

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

I think you meant "going to nightclubs as a white foreigner in Japan"

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Ehhh. My experience in some bars was not like that. I had a couple where they where the bouncer clearly didn't want me inside and I was told a place was closed several times when clearly they were not. It was just closed to me.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

I was stuck in Turkey for 2 months, for work, a year and a half ago. I remember being told that my group could enter this club in Instanbul, and we were excited to enter, until a black guy of ours joined our group as we were walking up. Suddenly there wasn’t room in the club anymore. That shit pissed me off.

Racism instead of xenophobia, but similar lived experiences of (witnessing) discrimination I suppose.

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[–] orb360 11 points 1 day ago

Will I meet the Totoro?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. ghosts

  2. Chances of being isekaied are much higher immediately after moving to Japan.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I could feasibly make $4k pretty quickly, I want my own home, and I've always wanted to visit Japan... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wish I had that kind of money.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Oh to be a thousandaire

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