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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, pretty basic opsec is not to drive to the crime scene. And don't bring anything with you that is not essential to the mission and which might get dropped and be used as evidence.

Wear cheap sweats and a ski mask. Dispose of them all as soon as you can. If cars are involved, use fake plates. Better yet, use bicycles and ride as much as possible off paved roads. And don't ride straight home.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Even better, wear loose generic clothes like a long black skirt and a baggy long sleeve shirt.

Investigators can narrow down suspects by using security footage to measure things like femur or forearm length. Baggy clothes make this much harder to do, because you can’t see exactly where the joints are. It introduces a lot of reasonable doubt that your defense lawyer can use to tear apart any video evidence they present.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, and the basic - don't carry your cell phone/smart watch regardless of whether it's switched off

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's rather easy to link a burner phone to you if you don't know exactly what you are doing. no need for a phone, don't take any risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you provide examples?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if your travel with burner and normal phone for one hour, both switched on, cell tower registrations are in sync and both are easily linked. if your switch on your burner only occasionally at random locations, but your real phone is/was there at the same time they are linkable.

to use a burner:

  • never switch on at home
  • leave main phone at home, switched on
  • travel a reasonable distance before switching the burner on
  • don't travel with people who know you and who carry a phone
  • sim & phone mustn't be bought/topped-up in a traceable way
  • cover cameras at all times (there are 0click exploits available to three letter agencies)
  • don't travel in a traceable way

it's possible, but certainly not trivial.

also: depends on the power of your adversary, as always the personal threat model is relevant. using a burner to cheat on your spouse is not the same as using one when plotting to steal the nuclear codes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Appreciate you elaborating, but if you wouldn’t mind doing so a little more…. lol

How does one “travel in a not traceable way”?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I mean... like everything this comes in many levels... go on the main road with your car, cameras will catch you. sign in with your public transport card when boarding the bus... these are obvious. use a cab, pay cash. ride a bike, change cities, change states, change countreis... depends on your threat model I guess :D

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Burn the Tesla with the phone, gotcha

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

And you can get a cheap used bike as well.

I'm not condoning crime, but if you're going to do it, give yourself the best chance of avoiding capture.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I hate how much effort is put into property damage but when my house was broken into or when my friends truck was stolen, the police did nothing.

It's also disturbing how hard it is to be anonymous. Crime or not, it gives me the creeps that anyone could probably track me down if they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

The police are here to protect the owner class.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's how they got Luigi. They protect and serve the rich ass only.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure that was supposed to say class, but it still works with the typo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I take my dog for a walk in my neighborhood and walk by no less than 10 different camera setups, and those are the ones I actually notice. Paranoia has led us down the road to a post-privacy society.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Lol ya and all that video footage is owned by the company of those cameras, like Ring aka Amazon. They can access it at anytime and they can even give it to the police.

Edit: there are setups in which you can store your footage on your own drives. However, many people don't know how to set it up so they use out of the box camera + app which stores all the data on the company servers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been thinking of getting a camera setup, but all the popular stuff is cloud crap, and the best options seem to be Chinese crap that I wouldn't trust on my network, so I'll need a separate network for them.

It's a pain! Why can't I just get the popular hardware and just disable the stuff I don't want?

It's frustrating that nearly everything is either a security risk, a privacy risk, or a vendor lock-i, and often all three.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Look into ubiquiti stuff. Keep in mind it’s prosumer/near enterprise equipment though, so has a higher cost associated with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Thanks for the tip. I have an AP from them, and it works really well. Guess I'll have to look at the rest of their product stack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And Amazon definitely hasn't ever provided police with any unrestricted access to whatever footage they want!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Don't think the feds were looking in into either of those things. Musk has a direct FBI line as a homescreen icon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I have two sets of clothing I have specifically for protesting in simply because my normal attire would definitely single me out and make me easy to identify.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Buy donation clothing. And by that I mean, buy protest clothing that you can easily take off and donate to a homeless person.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These people got caught because someone found their car and thus license plate.

Another had left a fingerprinted bottle that went missing when watching surveillance footage.

And then were able to confirm after finding the same outfit from the surveillance footage.

The lessons to be learned are to not use cars anywhere near the scene, leave no trace, fingerprints or digital evidence, including a phone, and make sure any recognizable clothing is well hidden, or even better thoroughly destroyed.

Oh and don't post anything on social media.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Taking your own car, leaving a bottle with prints at the scene and keeping the clothes worn during the act is just laughably stupid mistakes. I mean, come on guys, have you never watched a detective show!?

Kinda /s, but also not because damn those are stupid, borderline hilarious, mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The vine diagram between competent and willing to do vandalism is not a large one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Agreed. I think I could get away with quite a bit, but I'm unwilling to do it. Not because I'm a coward (I am though), but because I find it immoral. But I'm willing to help give tips for those who are "intellectually curious."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

The irony of being asked to sign up to a website to be able to read an article about opsec failures

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

With the current state of things, I expect no less than a public hanging in front of the Capitol building.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Good biking weather lately.