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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27132607

When sites no longer allow you to speak out against political figures, companies, or conflicts then its time to leave. They are no longer moderating a subreddit. They are moderation information as a whole. They get to pick n choose what you're allowed to rally around and rally against. Sites like lemmy are the next step to a free and fair internet.

Corporate has stolen our internet and our money. Its time to take it back. Federated and open source is the way we do it. Dont let the money tell us what we are allowed to talk about.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I know I'm old. I see things like this and always think of leaving Digg because they didn't want us to share a way to pirate Blu Rays and HD-DVDs, which none of us would ever use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

@Jeffool @Rtardbunny my favorite sports reddit doesn't allow discussions of where to watch team games that don't put more money in the billionaire owner's pocket.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can always start playing the same cat and mouse game of giving random names to all the censored terms just like the Chinese do on their chat platforms.

Or not. I'm just a message in a forum.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

@iturnedintoanewt @Rtardbunny isn't that how their president became "Winnie the Pooh"?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My submission history looks the same, but I'm not posting about anything political.

I've given up on Reddit. I only lurk on it these days and that's only when Lemmy feels a little stale.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

@lemmyingly @Rtardbunny I got banned from a gay focused subreddit for pointing out that it is impossible to separate gay/Queer identity from politics so a "no politics" rule is inherently not Queer-friendly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But it's not really impossibile. I just had a gay friend give up on the local pride rally because it has become overpoliticized by my country.

Just because there is a political aspect and assholes are using the whole queer movement as political propaganda doesn't mean the community wants to discuss it (especially how these can derail almost any conversation).

Of course I don't know the exact motives behind your issue, but with the info you provided I can still campaign against malevolent intent in this specific case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

@dzsimbo Being Queer is an inherently political act. Coming out is political. Getting married is political. How can you separate the personal from the political when it comes to gay identity?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

This is a very hard knot to untangle. Is being a woman political? Feminists for sure, but do you count being 'not a feminist' as a political act? Is my attraction to certain sexual characteristics inherently political?

There is definitely a lot to be said on the matter of politics, and while I hate blanket rules/bans in most cases, I can see why the community wants to keep current propaganda out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Replace "Mangione" with "the one who eats a lot". That would be the kind of literal explanation of the name in Italian.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Some would say his tastes are quite rich.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago

damn... "Luigi's Mansion" has a totally different ring nowadays.....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

~~You're free to spin up your own instance where you can make direct threats and actionable calls to violence.~~

Oh, those are subreddits. Yeah, you're probably not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't knew, who Luigi Mangione is. But now I know, that Reddit protects rich people and it's seriously not good. I have interesting subs there with no politics, but maybe it's time to just throw my account to trash. I don't care about posts and comments, as they say "RedUrun was here". Holy fuck...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

shockingly enough, corporations always act in their own self-interest

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

all the major sites do, like the archiving ones, wikipedia, google, they all protect donors and investors, family that starts with a p, talking about them got hella ppl banned from tiktok its like pursuer or something some combo of those letters, another one married a billionaire and got hella ppl banned off tiktok, it was fun watching their accounts reappear get hella views get banned start over til they disappeared forever, I saw a few sites about it

Also odriscolls being real and modern day still killing ppl openly wasnt talked about for long on reddit, and uh only find posts saying they arent that dangerous now when before theyd talk about how they became another large group

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Did I get this right? Redditors are not allowed to write "nword", but they are allowed using the actual N-word?

Fcking hypocrites!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

it's additional rules for the subreddit on top of the site wide rules for all of reddit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

That sounds like Xitter. Fortunately, Reddit hasn't devolved that far... yet.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah. I mean we do need a revolution. These corpos need to gtfo and be dissolved.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

When private equity and billionairs have enough money to buy up entire social platforms, newspapers, and news stations, and political races... its no longer about community consensus or discussion. Its just pure corporate propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's so invasive too... Hearing kids self censor for advertisers, like "unalive" or "pew pew" is deeply disturbing

Our language is being artificially pushed towards Corpo-speak

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

People doing anything for the algorithm these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Not even that... Kids do it IRL, because they hear it so much online

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Probably upset about "Happy Holidays" or something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Do they prefer vacation as the only people who uses anti work are American.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I deleted my account. I can't be on this "thing", knowing how it operates. Have fun with my content, I don't care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Delete your content when you leave

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care. That API shit happened, because spez is a dick. But Mangione's case uncovered a much deeper problem. I left in a rush yes, but maybe I will find a comment, that I made. I'm a nostalgic fuck, but that feels good you know?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

You can request removal, though it's probably all been scraped by 60 companies so it'll always be somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I made a slight tweak to OP's image, in case people want to share the picture on other networks. :)

Not perfectly done, but I feel like it might be an efficient way to spread the word.

Image displaying censorship on Reddit, with an ad for Lemmy added to the bottom

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure if you try and spell out the letters n, i, g, g,... and submit your comment or reply, it's hardcoded on all platforms to remove the word. I've tried tellijg a story on the sync app for lemmy that involved a word that rhymes with maggot being said and even in quotes it only printed on the screen "removed" iirc. Context here implying it was the word someone said and not being used in the context of the comment. Not that it matters in a public forum but I point this out because the list we're looking at is subreddit specific list of banned words that will trigger a bot to remove the automatically comment/delete the comment but still show a comment was made.

With that being said I have no fuckin clue what im looking at for the rest of the drama. In the image. It's 4 boxes that could be read L to R from the top or it could be columns where top L is 1 bottom L is 2 top R is 3...

I think they didn't like triggering their automated moderating system because what they felt was legitimate content. Little absurd to expect a reply from a real person mod in a span of a couple minutes tho.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think the Lemmy devs included automatic removal of some words on the platform, but it can be disabled by instance admins. It caused some funny problems in the early days of Lemmy, as banned words could sometimes appear in completely harmless settings/inside other words. Not sure what has happened since or on which instances it's currently enabled.

In either case I maintain that there's a difference between free speech (cool) and hate speech (not cool).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

The Scunthorpe problem is hard, and any simple blacklist method is bound to give both false positives and false negatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I personally don't believe in blacklisting specific words as a moderation policy in general.

I think it has served Lemmy well though - the automatic filtering of certain words might have deterred some deplorable people from settling down here. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Perhaps, I think its more likely that active moderation is the cause of that rather than word lists that let p!ss, pi$s and pιss through when trying to block piss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hey nice! Thank you!

Lol i couldnt post multiple pics through the boost app, so my Samsung created this mess of a "collage"....i can send you the full screenshots along with the post info and comments if you're interested in creating something else!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I think it's fine like this - gets the point across!