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[โ€“] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

โœ… US based upstream distro

โœ… US based repository

โœ… US based hosting

Not the definition of sovereign I was expecting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Should FOSS be acceptable? The Linux kernel development is mostly American, the Linux Foundation and the Free Software Foundation are based in the USA.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not comparable. There isn't really a real alternative to Linux. But there are alternatives for repositories and hosting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I'm talking about the first point on the upstream software.

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

So, letโ€™s make it clear โ€“ even though the name EU OS might suggest a connection to the European Union (as well as a strong reference in the logo), it doesnโ€™t actually seem to have any official ties to the EU organization itself. In my opinion, the name is a bit misleading, and itโ€™s easy to see how people might mistake it for an official EU initiative โ€“ but itโ€™s not.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pardon my ignorance, but why yet another fork? Aren't there already hardened distributions suited for government use? To me the hard part seems to be the services needed for enterprise mgmt; software provisioning, policies, user acces mgmt, auditing/compliance scanning. Perhaps a good idea to look at parties that can also offer 'corporate' support at scale. https://ubuntu.com/gov perhaps?

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Not to talk about SUSE and OpenSUSE which is in fact European

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it's not a distribution really, more of a set of layers on top of a distribution. Like a blueprint for how to setup a distribution for government use in a standardised way. Or sth like that, I didn't really understand it completely.

Also making our governments dependent on a US organisation seems like a very bad idea, even if it is Ubuntu.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Canonical Ltd. Is registered in London, England. How is that a US organisation?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Canonical is based in the UK.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is a great project and I hope we can band together to make it a reality! For us Linux and FOSS enthusiasts we have a real window of opportunity now to drastically increase the adoption of Linux as the Europeans OS of choice.

The distro used in this POC is not so important. It is just the easiest problem among other much harder problems to discuss and solve to make this a reality.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Okay, so it's Fedora KDE with fuck-all in the way of any sort of progress to differentiate itself and no defined reason why it should exist. So we're talking about it why again? I just downloaded Fedora KDE to my desktop. If anyone wants the ISO, I'm calling it Lemmy OS and adding a message of the day that says "Lemmy rulez!!" to make it unique.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

While I sue fedora and I think itโ€™s great as an OS why not OpenSuse here to really be EU based ;)?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

because fedora is a much wider used distro which means it has out of the box support for a lot more tools and packages, as well as a lot more troubleshooting articles around the web

alternative question: why not fedora?

youโ€™re not really giving up, or giving anything by using it as a base distro

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

You are supporting a US company (RedHat) while you could support an European one. You also rely on US based server bound to US patent laws (which are much more crappy than EU ones). OpenSuse uses rpm too so you wouldnโ€™t give away much. OpenSuse is also back by the oldest company (German) selling Linux as a product so youโ€™d have great support. As highlighted by others, otherwise, Ubuntu is more widely use than Fedora and Europe based too. By your criteria (support out of the box and troubleshooting articles online) Ubuntu should be the winner.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

because opensuse is shit, no community, tools from the early 2000, zero quality control.

[โ€“] corsicanguppy 2 points 2 days ago

So many bike sheds. So little time.