So once a lot of money is involved it also will bring all the sharks, so be careful what you wish for. I rather have a free network which can dissapear any time than a stable one which is full of money grabbing assholes, because the I can just go to threads or reddit.
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2025
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True that's the risk. I think we can achieve a stable one with a good shared economical management. That imply a limited user base on each instance so cost are shared, scaled.
That's why i think lemmy.world, mastodon.social aren't a good thing. Not tackling on an economic system isn't good either.
I agree 100β
I read this interesting article : https://stefanbohacek.com/blog/how-much-does-the-fediverse-cost/
That's a good idea. I believe we need to tackle on fediverse sustainability as wikipedia do. We can discuss on various way to support it. Not everyone has the budget to support every services and cost : phone bill, rent, internet bill...
And there are 3 things to support :
- the server + domain name
- the backup (more exactly sysadmin relay)
- its developpment (the software)
So i believe in a mix of users and public fund along a collective NGO organisation as https://chatons.org/ would guarantee long term service. Or we all switch to p2p as scuttlebutt.
Collective organisation will allow more cooperation between sysadmin, users and help us to defend our network, maybe shared cost. For example domain name as joinmastodon, joinpiefed...we could regroup them.
Instances should simply add ads.
With everyone here running an ad blocker, not sure how beneficial that would be
This would make me leave the fediverse because then survailance capitalism takes it over. We have that already with reddit, Instagram and threads, if someone likes ads so much they can go there.
Iβm not advocating for this, and I would rather just donate, but how would you feel about ads that are in no way targeted? Or maybe ads that target the sub you view them in and not per user?
If I'm really really honest, If I can't pay for not seeing ads or can't block them then I am just not using that service. I know I'm extreme but I just can't for the love of god stand advertisement. I've unsubscribed of so many podcasts because I figured out they would have ads and no way of getting rid of them for example.
That seems extreme. There will always be another instance out there without ads, and ads can always be blocked, and not all ads employ tracking and privacy invasive measures.
I'm against.
$5-$10 as a one off. Same as I've done for VLC, Calibre and Winamp. Actually I gave VLC a bunch because there was an odd thing years ago with my mobile plan that gave me the same value in google_bux as well as the phone/data/sms stuff. There wasn't really anything worth buying for me back then so I just kept spending it on the VLC paid donate option.
Zero. I also won't watch ads.